dont mind that imbecile. he says Adamek was a nobody yet he was the favorite in the fight. idiots like him don't understand that in order to make a name for yourself in a division, you have to go after the top names in the division and when fighters like Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe will not even utter your name, you go after the rest like Johnson (who doesnt fight old if you've been following his career) and Tarver (who is the biggest name in the division who doesn't have the first name Joe or Bernard).
Some idiot fans are never satisfied and would make the poorest managers in the sport if they had the chance. Go back to your fantasy football faqqots.
By not reading what he's actually said and instead assuming and ranting wrongly about him, you've got his position somewhat wrong. He's saying he rates Dawsons wins other Adamek, Johnson and Tarver pretty big names, over Pavliks 2 wins over 1 name, Taylor.
I have to say it's difficult to disagree with this. Taylor x2 does not = 3 wins over Adamek, Johnson, Tarver.
Pavlik is far too high p4p, and Dawson by the same standard deserves to be in the top 10 right now.
Personally I'd have both right towards the bottom of the top ten in all fairness.
The 2nd Taylor fight was just as close. I scored it for Taylor on first viewing. Also scored for Johnson though.
Miranda is ****in shite.
MW is a pretty poor division compared to LHW. I think Pavlik still has to beat Abraham to be the best.
dont mind that imbecile. he says Adamek was a nobody yet he was the favorite in the fight. idiots like him don't understand that in order to make a name for yourself in a division, you have to go after the top names in the division and when fighters like Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe will not even utter your name, you go after the rest like Johnson (who doesnt fight old if you've been following his career) and Tarver (who is the biggest name in the division who doesn't have the first name Joe or Bernard).
Some idiot fans are never satisfied and would make the poorest managers in the sport if they had the chance. Go back to your fantasy football faqqots.
Adamek is a nobody, Johnson and Tarver are both world class, but old men. That and the Johnson win was VERY close.
Taylor was the champ, Kelly beat him convincingly twice. Miranda also was a very hot prospect before Kelly got to him.
I agree with you that Chad is something special, but IMO right now Kelly is more dominant a MW than Chad is a LHW.
The 2nd Taylor fight was just as close. I scored it for Taylor on first viewing. Also scored for Johnson though.
Miranda is ****in shite.
MW is a pretty poor division compared to LHW. I think Pavlik still has to beat Abraham to be the best.
So what? Jermain Taylor was an accident waiting to happen. Good wins, yeah but enough to make him P4P top 5? Get to ****
I rate Chads wins over Adamek, Johnson and Tarver over that
Adamek is a nobody, Johnson and Tarver are both world class, but old men. That and the Johnson win was VERY close.
Taylor was the champ, Kelly beat him convincingly twice. Miranda also was a very hot prospect before Kelly got to him.
I agree with you that Chad is something special, but IMO right now Kelly is more dominant a MW than Chad is a LHW.
he has the skills to be in the top 10, but I feel ONE more GOOD win should put him in there. What I find funny is all these bandwagon Paul Williams fans crying about how Paul should be in the top 10 wont give Dawson the same respect.
Because unlike Pavlik he never dethroned the reigning, linear champion in dramatic fashion. That is until he gets a crack at Calzaghe.
So what? Jermain Taylor was an accident waiting to happen. Good wins, yeah but enough to make him P4P top 5? Get to ****
I rate Chads wins over Adamek, Johnson and Tarver over that
top 10 for sure. i wouldnt argue with 4 for bad chad behind jmm, pac and zagmeister...
not in that order of course. 1. pac. 2. zags. 3. jmm. 4. bad chad
With the wins he has he definetly should be at the top 10 P4P right now. Adamek, Johnson, and Tarver are no slouches in the lighty heavyweight division. Especially for a young fighter. Plus Skills pay the Bills and Dawson has alot of Skills. Look for Hopkins, Calzaghe, and Jones to stay FAR FAR away from Chad Dawson. They'd rather have their little tournament of celebrity boxing.
If Kelly Pavlik is P4P No5, then Chad is an ATG.
I seriously dont understand why Dawson isnt more highly thought of in the states.
Because unlike Pavlik he never dethroned the reigning, linear champion in dramatic fashion. That is until he gets a crack at Calzaghe.
Hell yeah, he is well skilled, and a fun fighter to watch because of his hand speed and solid punching power. If he can put on a performance as well as he did last Saturday every time, I think he could probably be P4P 1 or close to it. But right now he isn't, Mayweather is talking out of his ass again.
Obviously, he has more work to do, but he shows plenty of promise. Gotta admire his speed, combo's, movement, etc, but as far as I'm concerned he lost to Glenn Johnson and his win over a faded Tarver doesn't say all that much.
I wouldn't rank him as being P4P #1 like Floyd suggested (far from it).
i have not seen the fight between him and glen johnson, but with the comments that i hear from the other posters, i think that he needs to polish his skills more. but based on the performance he just showed against tarver he can definitely beat any guy in that division.
LMAO @ floyd comments before the fight, what is his role now? the manager of dawson?
a better opponent would definitely up his credentials like b-hop,cal,pavlik may be even RJJ.
He is right on the fringe of the top 10 now IMO. If you look at his level of competition over his past 3 fights it is pretty impressive. Another similar win and I think he will come close to cracking it.
how do you rank him after he won the fight against tarver? any thoughts?
im sure 2 or 3 more fights IMO he would crack my top ten P4P list.
Obviously, he has more work to do, but he shows plenty of promise. Gotta admire his speed, combo's, movement, etc, but as far as I'm concerned he lost to Glenn Johnson and his win over a faded Tarver doesn't say all that much.
I wouldn't rank him as being P4P #1 like Floyd suggested (far from it).
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