Joe Calzaghe will never be a great champion, says Roy Jones

Roy did not and was not accused of taking steroids... Roy was accused of taking Pro-Hormones. Pro hormones consist of Legal chemical formulas which with the right enzyme convert in the body to the real thing at much smaller rates rumours have gone around that he took ripped fule. If this is the case then he did not even take a pro-hormone, It is a fat burner with natural test boosters which have been shown to be un effective in raising test levels in most cases and very little in others, No benefits other then increased libido and fat loss could be achived with this. He supposedly took a 1-AD clone. If he did, This converts to an isomer of 1-testosterone. This is proven technology and does increase the body's un-natural test levels temporarlly while using, then test levels will completely drop back down to below normal and come back up to normal. In some cases can leave you with low testosterone levels for life. The test levels will increase, causing the body recover quicker in training and also increase aggression/endurance. 1-AD can only be taken for a maximum of 4 weeks, after which this time your natural test levels will have dropped dramatically. This then requires extensive PCT and support products to get natural test levels back to normal. My points and questions being: If roy did test positive only in the fight against Virgil Hill who apparently tested positive for the same thing at 10X more then roy.... How did roy jones score 31 KO's before and including the virgil hill fight. again if positive, how did he make virgil hill look like a piece of shit even though he was on the exact same "steroid" scoring a 4rth round KO? How did he win a silver at the olympics ? how did he then go on to win another 7Kos , 5 unaminous decisions and a majority decision against the likes of: Tito Trinidad Montell Griffin Clinton Woods John Ruiz Antonio Tarver Eric Harding Richard Hall how did he beat the likes of: James Toney Bernard Hopkins in his previous fights * end of rant * Jones has more of a legacy than most boxers of today p4p no.1 in 90's Still considered All time great and p4p Top Ten Silver at olympics ( Which if you read into it should of been a gold, however the judges were corupt and addmitted that at a later date ) Jones has more heart then most boxers Jones put on a show for the audience every time and wasn't scared of anyone people that are new to boxing and like to call them selfs boxing fans becasue they have watched afew fights in 2007 and 2008 or like many calzaghe fans are from the UK like myself, but because of the hopkins fight are suddenly over night calzaghe nuthuggers Can you not just accept the facts and read into how exciting/interesting and passionate a career jones really had . None of you have anything to say about calzaghe other than he beat kessler and hopkins. Read the latest release of frank warrens ( ****ing dick head http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213063&highlight=brave-heart ) and you will find out that joes ever so seemingly sparkling gold career is about as real as pamela andersons titties.... exciting as tony blair.... and as tastefull as this hair cut: http://www.community-media.com/wordpress/wp-content/crazy_guy.jpg spelling is not my strong point before u little girls start bitching. Get out the library and into the gym Take the bait....you're my biggest catch so far. As for Steriod Jones Junior...well...

I would laugh my head off if Calzaghe ends up knocking Jones Jr out, no one predicted that :P

Roy seems to have real problems letting his career and name go. I still think he's a talented boxer whom can perform at this level just. But he's deluded if he can't see how Joe can beat him. It would be ideal if Joe beat Roy, then Roy went on to furthermore, lose to a 44 year old Hopkins. LMAO. He would too, sorry to piss on your fire. no fire, lol Roy knows exactly how Joe Calzaghe could win. Reason he keeps saying Joe will start punching Friday night and wont stop until Sunday evening. Joe is looking to go all 12 rounds and win just as he did with Hopkins (by points). These judges will not be fooled with Joe Calzaghe's flashy "work rate". Jones will steal the eyes with his dancing and clowning in the ring while making fun of Joe and his "girlish" style of "punching" which will have no harm to Roy's super fragile jaw.

Calzaghe will never be considered as an all time great on this forum at least. Calzaghe will beat Jones Jr i think should be pretty close again, I think he should get out after this one otherwise his perfect 0 defeats will vanish,

I agree. I REALLY want Roy to expose the garbageosity of Joe Calzaghe. If I was Roy, I would adopt the mindset and style of Griffin II. I would just come out in round 1 and say 'this guy can't hurt me, and I'm walking THROUGH him". This is one of the MANY reasons Joe "bitch ass" Calzaghe didnt come to America and fight Roy Jones Jr when he was prime. Joey was scared and he has every right to be. Thank god Frank Warren had him busy over in wales fighting bums, or he would have lost a long long time ago... Thanks Frank. You made Calzaghe who he is today...... lol

So much for pleasantries... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/more-sport/2008/10/12/joe-calzaghe-will-never-be-a-great-champion-says-roy-jones-115875-20797551/ American boxing legend Roy Jones has warned Joe Calzaghe that he will never be recognised as a truly great champion. Jones and Calzaghe finally meet at Madison Square Garden in New York on November 8, but Jones has warned his Welsh rival that his status as the world's best light-heavyweight and his legacy are under threat. "Joe is a long way from being the king of boxing in America," said Jones. "He's a good European fighter but there are too many question marks about his career. "I have answered all my doubters and beaten living legends but Joe has too much catching up to do. He beat Bernard Hopkins but Hopkins was at the end of his career - and now he has to get past me. "I've been looking at tapes of Joe's fights and I just can't see a way that he can beat me," continued Jones (left), who has won world titles at middleweight through to heavyweight. The pair are promoting their fight at the historic New York venue, and last month they went on a five-city tour to generate publicity. "We got on OK during the tour but it was getting a little tense at the end," admitted Calzaghe. "I could tell that Roy just wanted to get back in the gym and that is exactly what I wanted to do. "I respect Roy's opinion but he is wrong about his prediction - I can't see a way that he can beat me." Roy never fought the best opponents either. This is a nice spin for Roy...

WAR ROY! Jones seems really confident for this fight.

oh dear o dear Well...... How good would have Jones really been without steriods? Roy did not and was not accused of taking steroids... Roy was accused of taking Pro-Hormones. Pro hormones consist of Legal chemical formulas which with the right enzyme convert in the body to the real thing at much smaller rates rumours have gone around that he took ripped fule. If this is the case then he did not even take a pro-hormone, It is a fat burner with natural test boosters which have been shown to be un effective in raising test levels in most cases and very little in others, No benefits other then increased libido and fat loss could be achived with this. He supposedly took a 1-AD clone. If he did, This converts to an isomer of 1-testosterone. This is proven technology and does increase the body's un-natural test levels temporarlly while using, then test levels will completely drop back down to below normal and come back up to normal. In some cases can leave you with low testosterone levels for life. The test levels will increase, causing the body recover quicker in training and also increase aggression/endurance. 1-AD can only be taken for a maximum of 4 weeks, after which this time your natural test levels will have dropped dramatically. This then requires extensive PCT and support products to get natural test levels back to normal. My points and questions being: If roy did test positive only in the fight against Virgil Hill who apparently tested positive for the same thing at 10X more then roy.... How did roy jones score 31 KO's before and including the virgil hill fight. again if positive, how did he make virgil hill look like a piece of shit even though he was on the exact same "steroid" scoring a 4rth round KO? How did he win a silver at the olympics ? how did he then go on to win another 7Kos , 5 unaminous decisions and a majority decision against the likes of: Tito Trinidad Montell Griffin Clinton Woods John Ruiz Antonio Tarver Eric Harding Richard Hall how did he beat the likes of: James Toney Bernard Hopkins in his previous fights * end of rant * Jones has more of a legacy than most boxers of today p4p no.1 in 90's Still considered All time great and p4p Top Ten Silver at olympics ( Which if you read into it should of been a gold, however the judges were corupt and addmitted that at a later date ) Jones has more heart then most boxers Jones put on a show for the audience every time and wasn't scared of anyone people that are new to boxing and like to call them selfs boxing fans becasue they have watched afew fights in 2007 and 2008 or like many calzaghe fans are from the UK like myself, but because of the hopkins fight are suddenly over night calzaghe nuthuggers Can you not just accept the facts and read into how exciting/interesting and passionate a career jones really had . None of you have anything to say about calzaghe other than he beat kessler and hopkins. Read the latest release of frank warrens ( ****ing dick head http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213063&highlight=brave-heart ) and you will find out that joes ever so seemingly sparkling gold career is about as real as pamela andersons titties.... exciting as tony blair.... and as tastefull as this hair cut: http://www.community-media.com/wordpress/wp-content/crazy_guy.jpg spelling is not my strong point before u little girls start bitching. Get out the library and into the gym

i hope roy can **** him up!!!!!!! loving the attitude from jones

Well you can keep telling yourself that. But deep down I think you really know the truth. i dont need to keep telling myself anything Jones would not have gotten away with taking drugs his whole career that is just commonsense

Well...... How good would have Jones really been without steriods? even if you believe Jones took steroids knowingly do you honestly think he would have been taking them his entire career ? i doubt it very much Well you can keep telling yourself that. But deep down I think you really know the truth.

Well...... How good would have Jones really been without steriods? even if you believe Jones took steroids knowingly do you honestly think he would have been taking them his entire career ? i doubt it very much

Well...... How good would have Jones really been without steriods?

NY Judges! all Roy gotta do is make the rounds close... yeah but he should not get the win if he dont deserve it allthough i want Jones to win if he is to win it has to be legit not a robbery

Roy aint beating Joe because of Roy's poor stamina simple as that just like Hopkins he will start well and fade and lets be realistic he aint taking Joe out either i got Joe by comfortable decision NY Judges! all Roy gotta do is make the rounds close...

Roy aint beating Joe because of Roy's poor stamina simple as that just like Hopkins he will start well and fade and lets be realistic he aint taking Joe out either i got Joe by comfortable decision

Jones just acted nice so Calzaghe would sign... i remember before the trinidad fight Jones callin Ali the greatest of all time and Calzaghe second! LMAO

Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has got one. Even though RJJ has beaten great fighters, there are still question marks about him as well. Thats the way it is. RJJ and JC shoiuld have happened years ago i'll say it again.

Roy is dead right,he was only nice so No Show Joe could sign. I bet you guys Joe's zero will go I Always thought the two got on well... Jones is just trying to hype himself i reckon...

ROY IS GONNA GET IN DAT ASS!!!! CALSLAPPY L in LOPSIDED DECISION TAKING BOMBS