Put aside whatever opinion you have of Graham's training abilities. Put aside whether you think it was the right or wrong decision for Ricky to leave him.
My main problem is that Ricky has sat back and let Floyd make comments like 'Rickys been training himself'. Last night on that Hatton chat show, Ricky watched Floyd make the same comment.
If he was a man, he would have sat up and said 'Well I just want to let it be known that I'm grateful for all Billy did for me, and there are no hard feelings between us.' But instead he just sat back. I think that's disgusting imo and I've lost a lot of respect for him for it.
If it's time to leave your trainer, fair enough, but atleast show loyalty to the man who watched over you as though you were his son.
Have talent running in and out of Billys gym like there is at the Wild card and such, and i bet u he'd have loads of champions too! He aint a bad trainer.
Not the point tho, they two were alot closer than just fighter/trainer, Rickys f#ucked him here!
U stick up for ur mates.
who gives a shit. why is billy graham your father? why u yapping about other people's decisions.
And the dumbest response award goes to...you.
whats the matter? Not enough De la Hoya/Pacman threads?
I'm yapping about it because I think loyalty is an important quality. I dont have to be related to the man to have an opinion that he's hard done by.
I watched that CRINGE fest Hatton Speaks too and thought the same shit, poor Billy must be fuming! That egotistical idiot slagging him off and Ricky just sittin there like a nodding dog! Im going off Hatton in a big way!
BTW WHAT THE ****!? HOW BAD WAS FLOYDS POEM TELLING!!?
Also there didnt seem any chemostry between them and Beard is FM's lap dog
This is business ,people.
**** your friends, **** your family.
Only the strong survive.
lol, business will eat you alive if you dont have people you can trust.
well what is he supposed to do man? floyd sr is his new trainer...its business now that's how life is man. It is a shock since everyone thought hatton and graham were inseparable...
here is an example Freddie Roach and pacman are very close and loyal to each other but Roach was asked does it piss off manny that barrera and floyd sr say those things about you that you are a joke coach? and Roach said Manny is a fighter he doesn't get involved with those things and ignores those type of comments.
It doesn't mean hatton is disrespecting his old trainer maybe he is like pacman and just not getting involved ya know?
Yeah I see your point Domain, but I think its severe in Hattons case since Billy's only world class fighter and it's not as if his record can speak for itself. He doesnt have a career anymore, and not held up in public regard. He could do with someone sticking up for him.
Hatton turned into a money hungry cunt a long time ago. People who still see him as a man of the people who eats chips and lard like the rest of us need to get a grip.
I agree with Starjammer.
Ricky shouldn't be talking shit about a man who did so much for him. Yes, BG was paid for his work, but he was close with Ricky for so long, and after that it's pretty shitty to act this way.
And he shouldn't be sitting back and doing nothing while someone else talks shit about BG either IMO.
This is business ,people.
**** your friends, **** your family.
Only the strong survive.
I agree with Starjammer.
Ricky shouldn't be talking shit about a man who did so much for him. Yes, BG was paid for his work, but he was close with Ricky for so long, and after that it's pretty shitty to act this way.
And he shouldn't be sitting back and doing nothing while someone else talks shit about BG either IMO.
Ricky has never said anything but positive things about Billy. The Mayweather's talk a lot of shit and Ricky isn't going to start a public feud with his new trainer that he's trusting his future with. Mayweather is selling Hatton as a new fighter that lacked proper training. Time will tell if that's true or Ricky is getting past his prime from the many tough fights he's been in and the yo yo dieting.
Is that show not live?
:-S
WOuld you want to a risk upsetting your new trainer, when he made a few flippant comments, and previously you've said you're staying out of it?
you want Ricky to stab Floyd in the neck with a pen or something?
Btw, big Floyd would PWN Hatton and Billy at the same time.
All Ricky had to do was follow up what Floyd said with his insurance that he still respected Billy Graham and they were still good friends. But he didn't have the courage to do that, which is surprising, because I would have figured he'd be the type of guy who wouldn't be afraid to stick up for his mates.
He didn't even have to put Floyd in his place when he said it. There were so many ways he could have handled it. Like laughing a little and then saying Billy brought him to a certain stage in his career which he appreciates, etc etc, now Floyd is carrying on with me. But he said nothing! And he even seemed like he was laughing.
If I was Billy, I'd be devastated. Remember guys, the only thing Billy ever did wrong was not have the world class training skills. He didn't **** Ricky over in any way.
People seem to be missing the point here, and going into Hatton needed to leave cause it was right time, Hatton always paid Billy well, etc etc.
That is not my point.
I am talking about Hatton not sticking up for Graham when Floyd talks his shit. Maybe I have a different opinion on loyalty as opposed to other people. But in my exp, you don't betray your friends, and you don't stand by and let someone else deride them. Even if it is an awkward circumstance, you stick up for them in any way that you can.
Ricky let that opportunity pass last night for example.
you want Ricky to stab Floyd in the neck with a pen or something?
Btw, big Floyd would PWN Hatton and Billy at the same time.
People seem to be missing the point here, and going into Hatton needed to leave cause it was right time, Hatton always paid Billy well, etc etc.
That is not my point.
I am talking about Hatton not sticking up for Graham when Floyd talks his shit. Maybe I have a different opinion on loyalty as opposed to other people. But in my exp, you don't betray your friends, and you don't stand by and let someone else deride them. Even if it is an awkward circumstance, you stick up for them in any way that you can.
Ricky let that opportunity pass last night for example.
I'm sure Billy was paid well and realistically it affects no one here.
Hatton always gave Graham a 10% trainer fee rather than someone like Oscar who sets fixed amounts to avoid paying as much.
I'm with you, man.
I think it's because it makes him look better- the notion that he was handicapped with having a poor trainer throughout his career. So by saying nothing, specifically to this suggestion, it makes it seem that all his success was down purely to him.
I font get why Floyd Sr is being such a cunt, either. I mean, I don't think Graham was an amazing trainer, but damn, these insults are cutting.
yeah couldn't agree more with that. You're onto something there. I want to stress that I have always liked Hatton, but this has really pissed me off. If your training is so new and exciting, just get on with it Ricky, and stop dragging down your old camp.