Roy Joy and Toney

I think skill wise toney was the best, but roy had maybe the best Ability of anyfighter pound for pound a 168.

Ability wise, Jones and Toney are better than Calzaghe IMO, they would both beat him prime for prime at 168. More REAL Talk!

To be fair I would be inclined to believe that Larry is speaking the truth there. He has always criticised Jones for his level of opposition and would have no motive for fabricating something like that. Larry is usually a very fair guy, compared to Bunce who is a certified moron. Real Talk..........

Who you got out of the other two? Ability wise, Jones and Toney are better than Calzaghe IMO, they would both beat him prime for prime at 168.

Ability wise, Jones was the best at 168. Who you got out of the other two?

Ability wise, Jones was the best at 168.

Off Topic but do you realize that you actually think Steve Bunce is credible? Yes I do. Buncey's a legend. He gets overexcited and over-enthusiastic sometimes but it just shows his passion. Now answer mine.

Where did I say he did or didnt? Off topic, but did you think Mayweather ducked Tony? Mayweather didn't duck Tony. It just didn't make financial sense.

Steve Collins avoided Roy Jones. Where did I say he did or didnt? Off topic, but did you think Mayweather ducked Tony?

1000 dicks in bunces' religion

Seriously dude, just stop. Stop trying to build up anything other than Bunce is a huge joke in the boxing world. He's just sad. No one takes him seriously. Please don't compare him to Merchant, that'll just show how biased you really are. Yes, I'm sure that Larry saying "large money" means 10 dollars. Good point. Keep dodging the point. Or conversely, you could just man up and admit you were wrong and move on with your life. Bunce PWNS Merchant :boxing: Admit I was wrong about what exactly?

lmfao bounce a legend good one dirk.

Roy, then Toney, then Joe.

Ummm, Merchant worked for HBO. I'm pretty sure they'd be privy to that given that they set up the TV contracts for all these fights. But hey, there's the video. Keep nitpicking and trying to avoid the truth. Bunce is a useless twat. Bringing him up further defeats any credibility to your argument. Yes I saw the video. The truth is something you werent telling since there is no mention of a $10m offer. Jones couldve offered him $10 for all we know. Bunce has worked for Sky and Setanta as a pundit......just like Merchant on HBO. .

I wasnt saying Merchant fabricated it. I just dont see how he could know that for a fact. Jones did a broadcast live on HBO before one of his fights where he listed a bunch of people that were supposedly ducking him including Liles and Collins. Its their word against his. Either way, I havent heard anything about Collins demanding a ridiculous $10m, so the ins and outs of the so called offer are unknown. And Roy wasnt exactly easy to negotiate with back then. And **** off! Buncey is a legend. :lol1:

I can't believe anyone would try to use Bunce to back up their claim here. Just admit that the link is here. Dirk backpedals and dodges the point like crazy. This isn't a semantics game. Bunce = Biased. Larry= hates Roy. Plus I believe HBO over Bunce, let alone Larry. Bunce is a joke. I caught a bit of his show on Setanta the other day and heard him talking about Pascal like he is a top 5 all time p4p great just becasue Froch has signed to fight him. Talking about how Pascal was a tougher fight than the likes of Taylor and Kessler, what a joke. The man is a fool and if I was a British fight fan I would hate his guts. It is individuals such as him that make ppl believe that the Brits are a bunch of biased idiots. Hate the man, 1000 curses on his family.

Larry Merchant says Collins turned down a fight with Jones. Nothing about $10m being demanded by Collins. Steve Bunce says Jones ducked Calzaghe, you believe him? To be fair I would be inclined to believe that Larry is speaking the truth there. He has always criticised Jones for his level of opposition and would have no motive for fabricating something like that. Larry is usually a very fair guy, compared to Bunce who is a certified moron.

Way to dodge the point. Knew you'd do that. Typical. No Dirk, I was at work and MIXED up which pre fight it was. I now double checked and it was a different pre fight than I remember. Big ****ing deal. Point stands. Now go ahead and nitpick it all you want. Larry Merchant says Collins turned down a fight with Jones. Nothing about $10m being demanded by Collins. Steve Bunce says Jones ducked Calzaghe, you believe him?

I know it's on youtube smart guy. I just mixed up the fights. It was pre hype for Griffin 1. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bugb18nrsY8&feature=related 3:40 in. Thanks for playing. So you've misleading everyone all this time. Didnt hear him say Collins demanded $10m either.

Um no. Merchant mentions Collins BY Name and says he priced himself out of the fight. Sorry you didn't see the fight. Btw, this occurs BEFORE the fight starts. Man you are slow. And that first fact, was widely reported everywhere. Hell you were on a thread where at least two posters gave you interview names and sources. But continued to just go on and on and on and on about people making stuff up. Only when it makes Calzaghe look bad right? I'm sorry you're so obsessed with one guy. I knew you'd say that. Pity for you that the entire pre-fight is all up on Youtube for everyone to see. Check it out for yourself. No it wasnt widely reported. Thats why its never mentioned, talked about or even be found when searching the internet for it. How could something so controversial be said and you cant find anything about it Someone posted an interview. No links, nothing. Just words that couldve been written by anyone.