Will the Paul williams fan boys duck this thread??? explain

I agree that as long as you make the weight you should be allowed to fight in a division but it was rediculous when paul criticized floyd for picking on smaller fighters when he's in his 4th division and paul's in his -3rd. that was chuckleworthy. he did start off his career at just under 160, just saying because you'd be surprised to find how many people don't know that.

I fight in karate competitions, and they do weight divisions as well im 6'2" and approx 68kg's sorry dont know conversion when Im not training, but for comps im 64.9 on the dot to fight in the <65kg division im taller than most but that cos im a skinny bastard and have a wiry frame. I have and advantage for height but the smaller guy have alot more speed than I. So it is hard to dominate. If I stay in the 65-75kg division the guys are generally bigger and stronger than me, as I havent been able to get over 70kg's ever. If you can make the weight then you can compete, There are plently og guys 6'3" and over 100kg there is no way in hell im fighting those guys! Weight is the best way to catergorise height and age are too hard to do I've seen it fail many times.

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He has Tony on the run. Quintana has williams on the run(from trilogy)

Since when did height get more important than weight these days on BS

Get your facts staright, Williams doesn’t weight drain himself to make 147, he is naturally skinny. Williams is a natural MW and Margarito is a Jr MW or MW. Margarito has been asked about the rematch twice. After the fight he sooked and answered I will not fight against Williams unless promoted by Arum. Before Cotto fight he said he had no plans for Williams. He was offered a rematch after the fight and said no. He was offered 4 million and he said no. Clottey is now fighting Cotto, no excuses. Williams – Margarito can happen before the end of 2008 So hes naturally anorexic(sick)

Thead starter is obviously a moron.

Why are you complaining now? your an idiot. Saddler, Corrales, Arguello, Hearns, Williams all very tall fighters who fought at low weight classes. Yet people are complaining about Williams. IF he can make 147 then he is a welterweight, all of a sudden were complaining that someone has a reach and height advantage in boxing OMG!!! That's why you have inside and outside fighters, hell no one complains about a big fighter that squeeze into a small frame and weight class but has no success.

These guyz don't understand what a frame is. They think Height/Reach should indicate a fighterz natural weight...they're that dumb. I agree..Its not that hard to see..Most of the taller fighter that fight in the smaller classes..Have smaller frames and they are rather thin and skinny Ie.. Hearns, Chico, WIlliams. I understand exactly where you coming from man..too bad other cant!

LOL good thread. I agree. Also I think Paul Williams should be forced to fight at heavyweight. cheap son of a bitch:nonono: :?!: Are you serious?:thumbsdow If thats the case...Why should he be fighting at heavyweight if he comes in at the 147 limit.. Hell he even comes in under the 147 limit. Please explain..I gotta to hear this one! So Margorito should be fighting higher than 147 since he's 5'11 Chico (RIP) should've be fighting above lightweight according to you? Tyson should be fighting at lower weight classes according to your logic right? Valuev shouldnt even be boxing according to your logic? Julius Long should have been DQ because he was 7' fighting a 6'2 Samuel Peter right? Come on man, you cant really believe that garbage you just typed!

Divisions are in place so you fight people your size and are not at unfair disadvantages. Obviously williams has found a loop hole. As long as you can make weight right? lol check these stats out! Here is williams stats: 6'-3" 82" reach now check these stats from heavy weights: vitali: 6-7 80" wlad: 6-6 81" Danny williams: 6-3 79" John ruiz: 6-2 78" Chagaev: 6-1 74" Samuel Peter: 77" 6-0 David haye 6-3 78" Lamon Brewster 6-2 77" Golota: 6-4 79" Muhammad ali: 6-3 80" leon spinks 6-1 76" and some more fighters: Roy jones jr: 5-11 74" Antonio Tarver 6-2 75" Bernard Hopkins 6-1 75" Pavlik: 75" 6-2 Pwill's reach is bigger than both's klitchko's :rofl: He's taller than 98% of heavy weights. Why is he fighting guys the damn WW size???? Good example of picking on smaller fighters or working the system in an attempt to get rich. would williams be williams if instead of going down in weight he actually did what the norm is and go up in weight as your careers moves on? It's embarrassing for williams to be fighting ww's he has no shame! Reminds me of the big dudes back in the day trying to be tough in front of people have their size it really is laughable. Looking at those stats makes you wonder how good quintana is if he can conquer those astonishing disadvantages he had and makes me wonder how good williams really is. Margarito had him hurt and holding the 10th and 11th round but why???? there's no reason for any ww to be lasting 6 rounds with pwill it's a shame they do! *YAWN* *moving on to next thread

The guy that made this thread is either a Paul Williams hater or a complete moron. Most of the fighters in all divisions arent naturally that weight or walk around that weight. If they did weigh ins the day of the fight then Margarito, Clottey, Cintron, Cotto, Berto, Baldomir, and many others wouldnt be fighting in the welterweight division. Off the top of my head the only fighters that would probably be able to weigh in the same day as a fight and weigh 147 is Zab Judah and Floyd Mayweather. Cotto was using his size advantage when he was fighting at 140. And Hatton uses his size advantage at 140 too. Do you think all these people walk around at 140 and 147lbs?. I'm 5'7 and i weigh 150lbs and I'm pretty thin.. And I dont even train. The whole point is that Paul Williams isn't the only one that takes advantage of the day before weigh ins. 90% of fighters today aren't naturally the weight that they're fighting at. But hey they train to get their body down to that weight so more power to them. If they can make the weight when they get weighed then they're not cheating. I think you missed the topic at hand not walk around weight natural weight class i.e someone who can make it into a weight class normally and without harm

The guy that made this thread is either a Paul Williams hater or a complete moron. Most of the fighters in all divisions arent naturally that weight or walk around that weight. If they did weigh ins the day of the fight then Margarito, Clottey, Cintron, Cotto, Berto, Baldomir, and many others wouldnt be fighting in the welterweight division. Off the top of my head the only fighters that would probably be able to weigh in the same day as a fight and weigh 147 is Zab Judah and Floyd Mayweather. Cotto was using his size advantage when he was fighting at 140. And Hatton uses his size advantage at 140 too. Do you think all these people walk around at 140 and 147lbs?. I'm 5'7 and i weigh 150lbs and I'm pretty thin.. And I dont even train. The whole point is that Paul Williams isn't the only one that takes advantage of the day before weigh ins. 90% of fighters today aren't naturally the weight that they're fighting at. But hey they train to get their body down to that weight so more power to them. If they can make the weight when they get weighed then they're not cheating.

wow this thread went 8 pages here ****you make weight.....YOU MAKE WEIGHT. ****PWill won fair and square ****If you call out PWill's "size" then expect to be called on the floor when it comes to Tony ****Tony is indeed a big welter ****when in doubt refer to my first point /thread Words from a wise man!

wow this thread went 8 pages here ****you make weight.....YOU MAKE WEIGHT. ****PWill won fair and square ****If you call out PWill's "size" then expect to be called on the floor when it comes to Tony ****Tony is indeed a big welter ****when in doubt refer to my first point /thread

Come on Marg fans this stuff about Paul being too big is getting old. What part of if he can make the weight when he needs to dont' you understand? It's the rules as they are now setup so deal with it. In any sport you are gonna always come up against a person who is bigger, faster, stronger. It means that you are gonna either really have to step your game up or find certain ways to win. Not make excuses and cry that a person had unfair advantages. I know Marg got beat the first time and might get beat the second time if they fight and it will be because Paul's just been better on those two nights, not because he has unfair advantages. I agree with you man...Its really showing their femanie side when the bitch about the smallest thing! To be fair..its only a very few people thats blowing this whole height thing out of proportion.

This height/reach advantage started after Paul outclassed Margarito. I've noticed that...I didnt here any of this height bullshit until the second fight was proposed...I can honestly say that a certain few always bring this height equation into play...Being tall doesnt always GIVES YOU A WIN, so why all of a sudden its a big deal now...I think some have ran out of excuses so they bring up the difference in height...It thats the case why isnt Margorito fighting in Superwelter weight? Like I've said before, if you can make the weight whats the big deal? I guess we'll never find out man!

Fack The Paul William Fans Boys!!!!!:****you:

Come on Marg fans this stuff about Paul being too big is getting old. What part of if he can make the weight when he needs to dont' you understand? It's the rules as they are now setup so deal with it. In any sport you are gonna always come up against a person who is bigger, faster, stronger. It means that you are gonna either really have to step your game up or find certain ways to win. Not make excuses and cry that a person had unfair advantages. I know Marg got beat the first time and might get beat the second time if they fight and it will be because Paul's just been better on those two nights, not because he has unfair advantages.

Are you going to be on Celestino Caballeros case as well? I'm willing to be all my points people wont look at that...Its seems that has become the case so a fight with Margorito\Williams wont happen...It may not be the case but it sure as hell seem like it!