anyone else agree with calzaghe "the americans are just trying to build a star"

There are certain fighters you have to respect. Pavlik is among them, along with Taylor, Mosley, etc.

regarding pavlik saying he is hyped because of the lack of top americans at the moment, fair point? Calzaghe is trying to build his own star with these claims. It's the best he can do to take attention away from the fact that he's dodging Pavlik. If you don't realize that then you are f*cking Clueless.

Why doesn't this pussy quit making excuses, this pussy fought Peter Manfredo for fuck sakes and now he is ducking Kelly Pavlik. Maybe Joe Calzaghe is a fucking retard, but the fans want to see Calzaghe/Pavlik. What the hell is going on in your avi?! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

pav is the linear middleweight champ.calzaghe needs to get off it all ready.

khan won a silver medal at the olympics and was a good prospect, pavlik is a champion but he isnt an atg he is made out. whoa whoa whoa.......whos calling Pavlik an ATG??? im american and no one in the boxing community i've been around has ever said that I think you guys may be over exaggerating what Americans are saying about Pav..........but i honestly dont think Americans are doing anything different than what you guys do for Calzaghe

Why doesn't this pussy quit making excuses, this pussy fought Peter Manfredo for fuck sakes and now he is ducking Kelly Pavlik. Maybe Joe Calzaghe is a fucking retard, but the fans want to see Calzaghe/Pavlik.

Pavlik has a good resume and is one of the top P4P fighters in the sport today. I like both Calzaghe and Pavlik and if they fought i think Calzaghe would win just because the style match up is wrong for Pavlik. Doesn't mean Pavlik is bad though.

thats actually a very stupid question. Kelly Pavlik is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and everyone will know that after he destroys hopkins and were not talkin about a slappin match and gettin by on a split decision kelly doesnt roll like that.... he has very underrated hand speed and so much power, I really hope if calzage gets by jones that he will grow some and fight the ghost because honestly calzage you havent proved anything thus far and thats a fact in my opinion he has one good win and thats over kessler who wont step up and fight good competition either so im not completely sold on him but joe cal beat lacy and that seemed like a huge win till everyone found out lacy sucks and then he beats sakio bika and comes to america to prove himself by fighting a 43 year old bhop and winning by split?? if he reallly wanted to prove himself he should fight the best not over the hill bhop... o yea i forgot hes really gonna prove something by beating roy jones too right? a little too late for it to be a big win... joe calzage doesnt have my respect after all the shit hes been talkin about pavlik especially when hes saying its his last fight that would truly be a disgrace

I agree completely. Thats not a bash on America, he is the MW champ and boxing needs to have stars. At the moment America is looking at an imminent reduction in the number of star name boxers it has, as the retirements of Jones, Hopkins, Tarver, Wright, De La Hoya, Mosley loom closer and closer, with relatively few up and comers on the horizon to replace them. Suddenly Pavlik finds himself with quite a lot of responsibility on his shoulders, if he isn't the real deal, who is going to be? Chad Dawson maybe, but who else? Thats why he's fighting Hopkins, so as to build his name off the star quality of the previous generation. Nothing wrong with that, Hopkins is an excellent opponent and a good test, if Pavlik can beat him he unquestionably belongs at the top table. As to whether Pavlik is being built up a little early, I think he is. After Pavlik beat taylor, Larry Merchant said "lets wait before we hail Kelly Pavlik as the golden boy of US boxing, because not that long ago that's what we thought about Jermain Taylor". I think we would do well to listen to this advice. Unless Pavlik permanently moves to LHW and embarks on a OAP killing mission he has very dangerous boxers around his division in Abraham and Kessler who he really needs to face and beat if he is to be deservingly hailed as that golden boy, and what happens if he loses to them? I can't see America adoring a boxer with a habit of losing to europeans.

Im not a Pavlik or Calzaghe fan. but I don't dislike either of them. For god sake Pavlik beat Jermain twice and knocked him out once! Pavlik hasn't been built up by anyone except for himself. I honestly think his record will be more impressive then Calzaghes in the coming year. I'm a brit as well so non biased.

No, not at all. Even Bernard Hopkins said Pavlik did it the hard way. Worked his way through the ranks, got on HBO and knocked out Jose Luis Zertuche. All mean while Jermain Taylor was the Undisputed Champ. Edison Miranda was KOing people and was supossed to be the next big star, was even going to get his shot at Taylor. Pavlik destroyed him by Knockout. Pavlik got his shot at the Undisputed Middleweight Champion and won by Knockout. That isnt being built, he took it. Even Hopkins said so. I like Calzaghe but his just needs to worry aout himself. I dont see what he gains from talking about Pavlik. Save it for if they ever fight.

The same argument could be made about Kahn being built up by the brits before he was exposed. khan won a silver medal at the olympics and was a good prospect, pavlik is a champion but he isnt an atg he is made out.