Is Calzaghe even anywhere near the league of Pac and Marquez?

Hes undefeated they aren't, and joes resume isn't hand picked compared to other boxers though that peter manfredo fight he should have never taken in my opinion. Peter Manfredo is a joke... its easy to be undefeated if you don't have real competition. if Calzaghe was a lightweight, even Guzman would whoop his ass - and Guzman hasn't even fought at lightweight yet. :boxing:

No disrespect. I am only being honest. Calzaghe has proven to be able to beat any style of boxers, while Pac has showed us he can ONLY beat come foward fighters. I've yet to see Pac face a defensive fighter. JMMis a good counter puncher, problem is he waits untills you throw rather then throw. As for P4P talk I'm too tired to get into that. Guzman is a good defensive fighter, we would have loved to see him fight Pacman but he doesn't even have the discipline to make weight. :loser:

Hes undefeated they aren't, and joes resume isn't hand picked compared to other boxers though that peter manfredo fight he should have never taken in my opinion. Peter Manfredo is a joke...

And people dont belive Pac beat JMM but guess what both fights were close and ON PAPER its officially wins Pac knocked down Marquez, Hopkins knocked down Calzaghe. :boxing:

And people dont belive Pac beat JMM but guess what both fights were close and ON PAPER its officially wins

I love Marquez but beating Bernard Hopkins is biggest then beating Joel Casamayor ko or not. Lets please forgewt about nationality and respect skills I don't even believe Calzaghe beat Hopkins. :boxing:

no B hop in my eyes pulled enough for a draw against calzaghe, JMM was straight dominating the best lightweight right now who never been knocked out, he also knocked casamayor out silly with furious combos. If calzaghe knocked out b hop maybe. but Joe C resume is shit compared to jmms. Well........ lets not forget JMM's resume wasnt ALL THAT HOT. I really love the guy trust me and dont wanna sound like a hater, but he lost to Freddie Norwood and Chris John and only the Pac fight (which on paper he lost) and Barrera and Casa fight are truely anything to look at. Both of there resumes are a bit iffy to me and I like JMM a lot but Joe C deserves some credit for wat he's done, remember he was supposed to get KILLED by Lacy

no B hop in my eyes pulled enough for a draw against calzaghe, JMM was straight dominating the best lightweight right now who never been knocked out, he also knocked casamayor out silly with furious combos. If calzaghe knocked out b hop maybe. but Joe C resume is shit compared to jmms. Sta. Cruz beat Casamayor already. What made this special is that Marquez KOed Casa not necessary dominated him like how Pac dominated David Diaz. JMM might have just retired a Ring Magazine champion...this makes this win as special as Pacman giving Morales his first KO loss.

votes aren't public, so allow me to announce my position. yes, he certainly is......

Love him or hate him, he is elite... I wouldn't have him as the top lb for lb fighter, but he is in the top 3.

I love Marquez but beating Bernard Hopkins is biggest then beating Joel Casamayor ko or not. Lets please forgewt about nationality and respect skills

calzaghe and mora have the same style :alcoholic:alcoholic

calzaghe and mora have the same style