Im goin to vegas OCtober 10th for the first time, and Id like to throw down my first bet in Vegas on the Tarver vs Dawson fight...
Im interested in what you guys think the realistic outcome to this fight will be...
Obviously anyone else's opinion is important as well...
Does anyone know the odds on this fight? or the over/under?
I got Dawson by wide UD. Too much skill, too young, too strong, too much activity, etc etc. Tarver's only chance is his big left hand. I'm pretty confident Bad Chad has this one.
I wonder why the same people who are screaming ''weak chin'' is not willing to bet points on Tarver, and if they do they ask for odds even though this a 50/50 fight. That's a shame. I want some more bets.
From last i've seen from both fighters and i know it's not related Pavlik KOs Dawson easily. Still i would love to see this fight!
pavlik is a middleweight pal, he would be destroyed by dawson. the power difference would be bigger than expected. kessler would destroy kelly too.
dayum!
still for as old as he is the man really hasnt been in many if any wars for his body to be broken
IDK I like Tarver at +200 more than the under at +160. To me its a value bet because Tarver is skilled enough to win on points yet strong enough to stop Dawson with one shot so he covers the inside and outside spread just by his odds alone
Dawson at -260 has too many things that could go wrong for him to be that big of a favorite. He could tire again like he did against Johnson, he can laspe again like he did with Adamek. he can get dropped on his ass as Tarver has some pop.
hope that helps
I think it could go either way. I'm leaning towards Dawson because Tarver is getting on in years and the fight against Woods that restored his reputation was not, in truth, against the highest quality opposition, especially not with the way Woods performed. I view Dawson's victory over Johnson as better, and if Dawson can win a cleaner, harder shots based victory over a punching machine like Johnson then I think he can over a declining Tarver.
That said, Tarver has often been underestimated in his career and could be again. At his best he' a smart and cagey fighter and if Dawson doesn't bring his A game Tarver might have that little bit too much savvy. It will be an awkward fight between two counterpunching lefties and Tarver's superior experience may help him in these circumstances. There are also question marks over Dawson's chin and Tarver has decent power, but if I'm honest I don't see Tarver stopping him.
If I were betting I would put my money on a Dawson decision, but I'm not, because I wouldn't be at all surprised by a Tarver victory either. We've seen both youth triumph over experience and experience triumph over youth before and in this fight I find the call very hard to make.
I know you didnt ask for my opinion but I will offer it anyway:blow:
at those odds I like Tarver. My thinking behind this is that while Tarver is up there in age he hasn't had as many fights or wars as someone 37 years normally would have so IMO he is fresher at this point. Tarver has an eraser that has to be reckoned with and we have seen Dawson go down from single shots and hurt at times. Dawson also fades pretty bad late in fights something Tarver can capitalize on.
tarvers actually 39 1/2
"realistically" i think Dawson wins by wide UD. Tarver is gettin up there in age and i dont think he can put up the work rate to put any pressure on Dawson. Only way i see Tarver winning is by KO is he lands 1 great punch that really hurts Dawson that either results in a KO or results in then a series of power shots that ends in a TKO because Dawson can be hit and hurt. But i dont see it i got Dawson winning big!
i might be willing to bet $1000 to win $500 that it goes the distance, what dfo you guys think?
I know you didnt ask for my opinion but I will offer it anyway:blow:
at those odds I like Tarver. My thinking behind this is that while Tarver is up there in age he hasn't had as many fights or wars as someone 37 years normally would have so IMO he is fresher at this point. Tarver has an eraser that has to be reckoned with and we have seen Dawson go down from single shots and hurt at times. Dawson also fades pretty bad late in fights something Tarver can capitalize on.
i guess its like,i do like to bet on shit... i usually bet on boxing with m yfriends, i made 400 on the baldomir fight and 600 on the oscar fight, 300 on th ehatton fight
150 on the tito fight
this is the first time im going to vegas, so id like to throw a bet down, after further research its apparently illegal for me to bet online.. .so...
Yeah, don't listen to me, I'm a total pussy. And a miser.
I'm scared for you. You crazy. Those are all likely outcomes, but not certain.
i guess its like,i do like to bet on shit... i usually bet on boxing with m yfriends, i made 400 on the baldomir fight and 600 on the oscar fight, 300 on th ehatton fight
150 on the tito fight
this is the first time im going to vegas, so id like to throw a bet down, after further research its apparently illegal for me to bet online.. .so...
lol probably not, i tell u what i would put a grand on....
mayorga mosley making it to round 8
jones calzaghe going the distance
I'm scared for you. You crazy. Those are all likely outcomes, but not certain.
But are you so sure you'd bet 1000 bucks?
lol probably not, i tell u what i would put a grand on....
mayorga mosley making it to round 8
jones calzaghe going the distance
no i think realistically this fight goes the distance...
i think dawson will give a lot of respect to tarvers power, and i dont think tarver will be able to keep up with dawsons legs... i see it being a UD for dawson realistically
But are you so sure you'd bet 1000 bucks?
no i think realistically this fight goes the distance...
i think dawson will give a lot of respect to tarvers power, and i dont think tarver will be able to keep up with dawsons legs... i see it being a UD for dawson realistically
I have a feeling that Dawson will be getting knocked out. As shitty as Tarver is, he CAN punch, and as good as Dawson is, he CANT take a punch.
At some point during the fight Dawson is going to do something stupid, Tarver is going to capitalize and Dawson is going to go to sleep.
Its really unfortunate, Dawson has all the skills to be great, but he is just not that smart. He makes to many mistakes, and I don't think that it is within his ability to change them. He simply strikes me as not intelligent enough to avoid making several severe tactical blunders per fight.
Floyd Mayweather Sr said it best:
"To be honest with you, I'm starting to think he's a little retarded. I hope you got that down. Somebody told me they thought he was a little retarded and I'm starting to think it's a fact. The more he opened his mouth, the more I began to believe what they saying."
As much as I don't like Tarver, actually as much as I despise Tarver, I think he will pull this one out. We are going to have to put up with a whole lot more of Tarver's bullshit talk.
all due respect, i cant take your opinion into account on the betting of this fight
I still say that Kelly Pavlik would possibly be a bad style match up for Dawson, so i really don't know where you get me being biased from. If i see someone that would trouble Dawson or IMO even beat him, then i say it and Tarver is not that person. Oh and i wouldn't bet on a fight if i were you, anything could happen in boxing and Tarver does have a punchers chance.
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