whats so special about winky wright, i mean who has he beat?

how the hell is taylor not elite?? Thread starter is a clown until he can explain why he's down on Taylor.

- beat a past prime Ike quartey - beat a past prime, out of weight felix trinidad - lost to fernando vargas - drew with jermain taylor (taylor is not elite) - lost to hopkins i really dont see why this guy gets so much credit... Please list your elite boxers if you find it neccessary to say Taylor isn't elite. This will be interesting. Unless your completely making sh*t up as you go along.

I'm not sure if he's a special fighter, but he's very good. He's capable of beating a lot of ppl. He's one of those guys where he's hard to hit, and he will make you look very bad.

Winky deserves some respect, he has beaten decent fighters. Last time I checked Winky is calling out Pavlik but Kelly chooses to fight Old B Hop

how the hell is taylor not elite??

I thought he beat Vargas and Taylor if that means anything. What you say is true though. The actual wins on his resume are overrated. Shane Mosely is not a 154 pound fighter, and Tito was past it. His other W's are not that impressive.

he is a paper hall of famer but not in the real books of great fights

he beat mosley twice i thought he drew with bhop and he really beat vargas he's been avoided most of his career and was the first to unify the junior middle division

yeahhh, I think hes overrated. Everyone always talks about how he can take a hit blah blah blah, but hes been inactive for like a year and the last time he fought he lost to like a 42 year old guy. True he fought shane twice but I still don't like him all that much. Hes also crazy boring to watch lol.

boring fighter who wonders why nobody wants to fight him, could it be nobody wants to see him fight?

he broke with mosley for sure- but yeah. the size disparity is not ignorable. him and arthur abraham is a good fight- i hope it comes off. winky is good though- people think hes boring and i wont argue- but he's got a turtle style that will keep him a tough opponent well into old age

mosley? come on... mosley is a midget compared to winky, not listing him does winky a favor.

All the big names he beat got beaten by someone else in a more spectacular fashion. what an asshole.

He was avoided for a lot of years, Mosley gave him his big break, his resume isn't great but it's an alright resume.

All the big names he beat got beaten by someone else in a more spectacular fashion.

- beat a past prime Ike quartey - beat a past prime, out of weight felix trinidad - lost to fernando vargas - drew with jermain taylor (taylor is not elite) - lost to hopkins i really dont see why this guy gets so much credit... you know how i know you don't know much about boxing? you don't even know he fought mosley twice.