Is Wlad the worst Heavyweight champ?

Not the worst..but very unimpressive and uninteresting

Do you guys think Wlad is one of the worst heavyweight champs of recent times , Obviously some of the belt holders like Seldon where worse but I think Wlad is one of the worst recognized champs for a long time. nope. it's just that the contenders are one of the worst in a long time if you really wanna dig some stuff up.. there's Leon, which you mentioned, Primo Carnera, Buster Douglas, James Braddock, Briggs, ...

Wlad cops a lot of hate on this forum that he doesn't deserve. Firstly, it is not really his fault that there aren't other superstars around for him to fight. Someone's alt criticised him the other day and I asked who he should fight. His answers were Sam Peter and David Haye, one of whom he has beaten and the other is not even legitimately ranked in the division yet. He has been in boring fights of late but that has mainly been due to the fact that his opponents were there for the pay-day, knew they did not have a chance and thus fought extremely defensively. Wladimir is well on the way to becoming an ATG heavy IMO. He has some questionable losses that the true ATGs of the division do not have, but he is still a very good champion.

The worst? No, Close to being the worst? Yes.

Wlad is one of the more dominant Champions. He's beaten just about every top fighter and would be heavily favored to beat every HW in the world right now. Manny has made Wlad a more boring fighter, but he's also made him almost invincible. If Wlad wins his next 4-7 fights and unifies the division he will go down as an All-Time great, like it or not!

Thing is he's not THE heavyweight champion. yet if you consider him just a title holder (which he is) then there have been far worse.

But he is not as great as Louis in history. However, I would rate him aboce the likes of Rahman and that lot (Sorry, too tired to think of the names off top of head) Exactly, there are alot of great names on that list. I agree he should be ranked above Rahman, Douglas...

what about Frank "The Great Brit" Bruno, a str8 bum! :grumpy: He got robbed in both Tyson fights!! truth??.....shut your mouth Limey boy It's just your retarded OPINION :rolleyes: He definatley wouldnt be above the 2nd half. And probably the 3/4. I am saying he wouldnt beat them in a boxing fight, he would beat many of them. I am going on greatness. And how they compared in that era. or eras around them. Not comparing Sullivan against Lewis or Jeffries against Tyson. I agree, I don't rate them on a head to head fight. Wlad-Louis is a huge size adbantage for Wlad, so he could very well win. But he is not as great as Louis in history. However, I would rate him aboce the likes of Rahman and that lot (Sorry, too tired to think of the names off top of head)

truth??.....shut your mouth Limey boy It's just your retarded OPINION Who has he beat worth mentioning? His not even the Undisputed Champ at the moment and this is the worst state the division has ever been in. He has potential to be alot higher but at the moment as lineal champs go his not a brilliant one. Im no Hater i would love for someone to take control of this division..

I disagree, but; Check my edit. I misread it. He definatley wouldnt be above the 2nd half. And probably the 3/4. I am saying he wouldnt beat them in a boxing fight, he would beat many of them. I am going on greatness. And how they compared in that era. or eras around them. Not comparing Sullivan against Lewis or Jeffries against Tyson.

Sorry its the truth it may Hurt. truth??.....shut the hell up Limey boy It's just your retarded OPINION

not really there was worser champs......i cant named them though I can......the bum who got luck in South Africa against Lennox Lewis, there was Tony Tucker the neighborhood sucka, Trevor "I'm fallin and I can't get up" Berbick, and what about Frank "The Great Brit" Bruno, a str8 bum! Wlad is a GOOD HW champ. Anytime a fighter can win a fight with his jab alone......he has to be good.

Wlad beats most of the fighters on that list I disagree, but; Check my edit. I misread it.

I forgot Hasim Rahman. So we have Rahman and Douglas as worse recent undisputed champions, with Briggs added to that list if linear champions are counted. I would say that Moorer was worse also. how about this, if wladimir scored all first round kos for the rest of his career, when would people finally lay off? who would he have to beat? A lot of champions didn't get the respect they deserved until they had retired. I feel it will be the same way for Wladimir if he keeps doing what he is doing.

how about this, if wladimir scored all first round kos for the rest of his career, when would people finally lay off? who would he have to beat?

Why? Because he said Wlad ranks pretty low Bottom 5 within those?.. Wlad beats most of the fighters on that list

Fuckin retard :nonono: Sorry its the truth it may Hurt.

If you can't find five guys worse than Klitschko on that list, then you really don't have a clue. Im not doing it on a who beats who basis. That would just be unfair, but if you add everything up then he ranks low on this list bottom five may have been a bit harsh..looking at that list i would rate these people below him : Hasim Rahman Michael Moorer Shannon Briggs James Douglas Leon Spinks Jack Sharkey

Fuckin retard :nonono: Why? Because he said Wlad ranks pretty low Bottom 5 within those?.. EDIT- Hang on, I misread it...:oops: Yeah I agree.

Compared to other proper champs like : John L. Sullivan James J. Corbett Bob Fitzsimmons James J. Jeffries Marvin Hart Tommy Burns Jack Johnson Jess Willard Jack Depmsey Gene Tunney Max Schmeling Jack Sharkey Primo Carnera Max Baer James J. Braddock Joe Louis Ezzard Charles Jersey Joe Walcott Rocky Marciano Floyd Patterson Ingemar Johansson Sonny Liston Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali Joe Frazier George Foreman. Leon Spinks Larry Holmes Michael Spinks Mike Tyson James Douglas Evander Holyfield Riddick Bowe Michael Moorer Shannon Briggs. Lennox Lewis Hasim Rahman Then yeh he ranks pretty low Bottom 5. Fuckin retard :nonono: