Jesus christ, he kept lying to katsidis the whole fight and gave him the worst advice in the world. And was one of the judges paid off? Did the retard judge who thought katsidis win was a woman who thought kats is hot?
Dude I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Katsidis' trainer sucked a fat D tonight. He needs to drop him ASAP if he wants his career to go any further.
Jesus christ, he kept lying to katsidis the whole fight and gave him the worst advice in the world. And was one of the judges paid off? Did the retard judge who thought katsidis win was a woman who thought kats is hot?
Mac you are right, if I was his trainer the first thing I would have told him katz to go to diazes left, dude was getting HIT ALL NIGHT with the left jab, I mean how hard is it to go opposite of the jab? Next thing is, in the beginning of the fight he NEVER went to juans body, I mean juan is not a bodybuilder or anything but the body early part of the fight would have worked wonders! I honestly think this was a VERY Evenly matched fight and winnable for kats.
I did score it 115-111 for diaz
It seemed to me like Kessler corner against Calzaghe. They didn't readjust well, or maybe they wanted him to pace himself for the later rounds, but it didn't work.
Shshhhhhhh! Christ, now you awoke all the JC people! Great, thanks.
It seemed to me like Kessler corner against Calzaghe. They didn't readjust well, or maybe they wanted him to pace himself for the later rounds, but it didn't work.
The problem with this fight is that HBO talked as though Diaz totally destroyed Katsidis, but he didn't. I personally had Diaz winning 9 rounds to 3, but this wasn't a beatdown it was simply a case of two fairly evenly matched brawlers but where one is a much superior outboxer. Diaz won the rounds based on landing his jab on Katsidis over and over again, but there is plenty of case for arguing that Katsidis landed harder and cleaner combos in several rounds, especially towards the end of the fight, when I felt he often had the better of it.
The point is that the verdict was correct but the spin placed on it by the coverage wasn't.
He methodically picked apart the stronger puncher in a lobsided victory. You said it yourself, 9 rounds to 3. That sir, is a beatdown. Didn't his face show enough of that for you?
Katsidis seemed look like he thought he was winning in the way in which he fought and when they announced the decision he was crushed after he heard that first judge gave it to him but awsome fight
I think the trainer had a very simple plan, get Katsidis to box cautiously so that the fight would go into the later rounds and bank on his power carrying the day. The problem was that he was too cautious and didn't do any kind of damge early that would have helped this plan succeed. With a fighter like Katsidis, that isn't a bad plan, but I think they underestimated Diaz.
Actually, I voted no. His corner work, suspect as it was, is not a reflection of him as a trainer. It's 2 different things. Some trainers just aren't good in the corner, and maybe should let someone else handle the advice/adjustments part. Jim Strickland would have done much better in this case. And if I'm not mistaken, I think at one point I heard Jim saying something to Katsidis between rounds, and Smith says "No advice please, I told you about that" or something to that effect. But back to my point, some trainers are good in the gym, but not so good in the corner. McGirt and Roach also come to mind. McGirt just says "jab him to the chest baby" over and over again, and Roach just sits there with a blank look on his face and says "give me more water".
Better than Pavlik's corner being completely tongue-tied and stuttering against Taylor. What was up with all the training it showed Katsidis doing in what appeared to be a parking lot though, does the man not even have a gym? :lol1:
Did any one else notice that the majority of the fight Katsidis was trying to box the boxer? And when he brawled in the later much later rounds like round 9 and up he started looking alot better and landing more punches? Not saying he won all those rounds past the 9th round, just saying that he started turning things up and start to move and weave and throw wild punches... This dumb ass trainer tried to turn a brawler into a boxer and failed miserably. :rofl:
I think Kellerman and Papa were being very negative in their comments about the trainer, and creating a negative opinion of the trainer in those who were listening. But the trainer was really okay.
I wish people could have watched the fight from an Australian broadcast crew, they may have come away with different opinions.
The problem with this fight is that HBO talked as though Diaz totally destroyed Katsidis, but he didn't. I personally had Diaz winning 9 rounds to 3, but this wasn't a beatdown it was simply a case of two fairly evenly matched brawlers but where one is a much superior outboxer. Diaz won the rounds based on landing his jab on Katsidis over and over again, but there is plenty of case for arguing that Katsidis landed harder and cleaner combos in several rounds, especially towards the end of the fight, when I felt he often had the better of it.
The point is that the verdict was correct but the spin placed on it by the coverage wasn't.
Very blind corner in all aspects. The advice he did get, which was next to none, was all the WRONG advice. His trainer should be taken out back and beat, hopefully by Kats. Kats performed very well tonight and showed tremendous heart and IMO, deserves a little more professional corner to guide him through his fights. He was just simply outclassed by a very determined and well equpped Diaz. Hats off to both fighters for an entertaining fight.
he didnt say anything except that Katsidis was doing good and winning, which Katsidis wasnt doing...but it wouldve been nice if he actually gave him any advice at all. no specific instructions whatsoever.
I don't know if he's the worst, but he didn't seem to be giving Katsidis the best of advise. I saw Diaz confuse Katsidis and not really land many good shots flush. His only way to win in those later rounds was to go all out like he usually does, but his trainer seemed to be giving him the advise that he was ahead.