What do you guys think of this match-up? IMO it is one of the most interesting WW matchups you can make.
I think it could be a case where the better fighter would get beaten. Undoubtedly Hearns was a superior fighter however Tito's style is pretty much kryptonite for Tommy. He has power, finishes fights strong and has a damaging left hook - Tommy's bogey punch.
I think in a ten fight series Trinidad might win 6 or 7. It would all come down to whether Tommy managed to use his jab and great right hand to keep Trinidad from landing that left hook for the 12 rounds. Obviously Hearns has a better chance in a 12 round fight compared to a 15 rounder.
Your thoughts on this match-up?
Hopkins KOd Tito and Hearns probably hits harder than Hopkins, I could see Hearns winning a late TKO. But I would agree that Hearns decision is more likely
Great match up btw! :boxing:
That was at 160,Tito KOs Hearns at 147 read thread.
Please help me understand how a 12 rounder would benefit Tommy and a 15 rounder would benefit Tito? I dont recall Tito ever fighting a 15 round fight.
Tommy faded badly in a lot of his fights. Tito was a slow starter who got stronger as the fight went on. Hearns might have been in a few 15 rounders but he never looked comfortable in them.
i agree Trinidad is underrated on these boards i think the guy was a beast in his prime i dont judge him on what we see now i judge him in his prime
Tito would have a great chance dont get me wrong i just feel that Hearns right hand would find a home easier and sooner than Tito's left hook Hearns right hand was not only powerful it was up there with Arguello's for accuracy IMO
What do you guys think of this match-up? IMO it is one of the most interesting WW matchups you can make.
I think it could be a case where the better fighter would get beaten. Undoubtedly Hearns was a superior fighter however Tito's style is pretty much kryptonite for Tommy. He has power, finishes fights strong and has a damaging left hook - Tommy's bogey punch.
I think in a ten fight series Trinidad might win 6 or 7. It would all come down to whether Tommy managed to use his jab and great right hand to keep Trinidad from landing that left hook for the 12 rounds. Obviously Hearns has a better chance in a 12 round fight compared to a 15 rounder.
Your thoughts on this match-up?
Please help me understand how a 12 rounder would benefit Tommy and a 15 rounder would benefit Tito? I dont recall Tito ever fighting a 15 round fight.
Hearns actually got hurt more by right hands than left hooks, Leonard caught him with a right hand in the 14th, Barkley caught him with a right hand that hurt him badly, Hagler ended his night with a right hand, Hearns relied of rolling with right hand shots after throwing his jabs then coming back with his own right hand, sometimes it didn't work. He didn't get hit and hurt too much to my recollection by left hooks.
Good observation.
Trinidad was a good fighter no doubt...but without the aid of illegally wrapped hands his chances are just as the poll suggests 70/30.
yeah im sure his 90% KO ratio was due to his illegally wrapped hands. :nonono: :rofl:
it would be a great matchup, but I think it would depend on which Trinidad you are talking about. Trinidad of late who "head-hunted" would lose, the Tito that boxed, moved jabbed, etc... would win via mid round KO. (Hearns is chinny)
Hearns has more power than Tito, but other than Hearns, at WW who had more power than Tito??
A lot of people call this fight 50-50; I think even Ive called it this when its been brought up in the past, however the more I think about it I'd have to favour Hearns by as much as 70-30, I mean 50-50 is valid because they're both huge punchers and vulnerable, but throw into the mix Hearns' virtually unparalelled boxing ability, and Titos evident vulnerability to good boxers (clueless tactically when outfoxed by DLH, Hop and Winky, and in portions of a handful of other fights including even Vargas) and you have to favour the Hitman. Plus, much as Trinidad was explosive, he had to plant his feet first and Hearns doesn't often simply stand there for you to hit him, if he does its because he's planting his feet too and in a quick shootout I see his right hand landing before Felixes left hook.
Hearns had a little more power and better boxing skills(threw punches from diff.angles) where Trinidad seemed more predictable and robotic.
Big edge for the hitman.
Yeah, it can definately go either way. It is fine to favour Hearns I think but writing off tito as no chance and saying it will be an easy KO for Tommy as some have said is a bit ridiculous IMO.
no way would it be easy Tito hits to hard and is an Elite fighter so how can he be dismissed so easily
i do think Hearns would end it early though but not to say that Tito would'nt give him all he could handle its just that kind of fight if someone is going to lose they are getting KTFO early
i agree some people dismissing Tito are clearly crazy
i agree Trinidad is underrated on these boards i think the guy was a beast in his prime i dont judge him on what we see now i judge him in his prime
Tito would have a great chance dont get me wrong i just feel that Hearns right hand would find a home easier and sooner than Tito's left hook Hearns right hand was not only powerful it was up there with Arguello's for accuracy IMO
Yeah, it can definately go either way. It is fine to favour Hearns I think but writing off tito as no chance and saying it will be an easy KO for Tommy as some have said is a bit ridiculous IMO.
Yeah I honestly think Trinidad is underrated on these boards. Sure he ran up against a couple of guys who had his number but that is not unusual, even for ATGs. I think people just saying, "Hearns is way to good for Tito, Hearns KO 3" or whatever are risking just casting Tito aside as any other fighter. He wasn't.
I have watched a lot of welters and I don't think I have ever seen a guy hit as hard at that weight and he has arguably the best left hook I have ever seen. Bottom line is that a guy who hits that hard and finishes that well should not be written off as having very little chance against a guy with a questionable chin who had a habit of dropping his right hand. Regardless of how great Tommy might have been.
i agree Trinidad is underrated on these boards i think the guy was a beast in his prime i dont judge him on what we see now i judge him in his prime
Tito would have a great chance dont get me wrong i just feel that Hearns right hand would find a home easier and sooner than Tito's left hook Hearns right hand was not only powerful it was up there with Arguello's for accuracy IMO
i love the way Tito sneaks his left foot close to his oponent then explodes with the left hook
Yeah I honestly think Trinidad is underrated on these boards. Sure he ran up against a couple of guys who had his number but that is not unusual, even for ATGs. I think people just saying, "Hearns is way to good for Tito, Hearns KO 3" or whatever are risking just casting Tito aside as any other fighter. He wasn't.
I have watched a lot of welters and I don't think I have ever seen a guy hit as hard at that weight and he has arguably the best left hook I have ever seen. Bottom line is that a guy who hits that hard and finishes that well should not be written off as having very little chance against a guy with a questionable chin who had a habit of dropping his right hand. Regardless of how great Tommy might have been.
I agree to an extent. I am a big fan of both these guys but if this fight were to come off I would be rooting for Tommy. Its just something about Tito's style though that I think would be bad for Hearns. I agree though, either could win.
i love the way Tito sneaks his left foot close to his oponent then explodes with the left hook
I just notice how in fantasy match-ups the boxer from the past seems to always get the nod.
We're beginning to over hype the past fighters and underrate our current (or recent) ones...
I'd root for Tito, though I know any of them could win.
I agree to an extent. I am a big fan of both these guys but if this fight were to come off I would be rooting for Tommy. Its just something about Tito's style though that I think would be bad for Hearns. I agree though, either could win.
I just notice how in fantasy match-ups the boxer from the past seems to always get the nod.
We're beginning to over hype the past fighters and underrate our current (or recent) ones...
I'd root for Tito, though I know either of them could win.
All good points guys thanks for the responses. I actually think Trinidad would have had more of a chance than a lot of posters have given him credit for but good responses nonetheless.