seriously oscar is a great fighter and he's put on some good fights but does he seriously deserve to get paid how much he does?
and don't even get me started on manny. who has this guy beaten? barrera , morales and marquez? overrated mexican fighters. when is manny gonna fight a black fighter?
many expect possible may happen is manny will lose.. hope that he may not
hurt with the fight.
for a few pac is superman! thinking this is a great fight.. exciting fight.. that is
dumb shit they want to know pacman ability and limitation... well let see.
but where the money is.. where every bet is on.. it will be a fight.
you tell them chups!
who has manny beat that comes close to being as good as kessler and lacy?
Jorge Julio? he's a two time champion.........
naahh he's 32 at the time
Nedal Hussein?....but he lost all his major fights
Reyante Jamili? ...he was kayoed by Morales before pac
Lucero? he was undefeated at the time....but lost in succession after
Hhhmmmmm
Joe Calzaghe has a better resume and he's undefeated! :D
you tell them chups!
who has manny beat that comes close to being as good as kessler and lacy?
Yeah, you make good points Tua. But I just don't see it as a fair fight. I don't blame Pacquiao. How can anyone accuse Pac of ducking when he is willing to fight someone 3 divisions above him?
It's silly when people say that he is ducking Guzman and Marquez, because even if he lost those fights, it would be a close decision, and Pac would probably look less beat up than his opponent at the final bell. The most likely outcome against DLH is a KO defeat.
But I do think that DLH should be criticised. He has the power to get a fight with anyone, and he chooses someone much smaller than himself.
I honestly think that DLH vs Roy Jones would be a fairer fight than this. And that fight would sell a lot. And Roy is at a similar stage of his career too. I know that Roy is busy with Zag, but DLH wouldn't be willing to fight him anyway. He wants a big money, for the easiest win possible.
I also think that part of it is disappointment from people that expected better from fishnets boy. I used to be a big fan of DLH as a fighter, and after all the BS from people like Don King and Frank Warren, I thought that he might improve boxing as a promoter. But now I dislike him and hope that Pacquiao KOs him.
I have always liked Freddie Roach too. He refused to train Wayne McCollough because of fears over his health, and seems to have done the same about Hopkins fighting Pavlik.
But yet he's willing to do this fight? Maybe the $$$ had nothing to do with Roach's decision, but I'm not so sure. You risk your health everytime you step into the ring, and the risk is much greater when you are against a bigger guy. Especially when you are an attacking fighter like Manny, who will probably keep coming forward, taking shots, and refuse to quit.
I just see it that the biggest fight of the year will be a mismatch, and that isn't good for our sport. I also don't think it's good that the P4P#1 guy might get KO'd and not be the same quality of fighter again.
I will probably watch the fight, and I hope Manny pulls off the upset. It's possible of course. But I much would've preferred for them both to fight people from their own weight.
it's been done before. who's to say manny can't do it?
in the old days there was no 140 division. people jumped straight from 135 to 147.
henry armstrong went from 126 to 135 to 147 to 160 in the days of no super/junior weight divisions. not to say manny is henry but manny can try.
my head says oscar by ko but i haven't picked against manny since 2003 i'm not gonna do it this time either.
the fight makes sense money wise so we can't do anything about but just enjoy the fight. it's done.
we can whine about who they should fight but the fact is they're fighting each other.
manny ud12 over oscar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
morales was shot and he went 1-2 against manny.
marco had too many distractions going into the 1st fight. look how a past prime marco was competitive with manny in the 2nd.
juanma is no longer in his prime and he beat manny twice.
Nyahahahahaahahahahaaha
tado! :D
shoot tua put your foot down and not buy this fight bro! watch it streaming and if you want i'll send you the dvd. my brother is one of the original players in this internet stuff and somehow records all the's ppv for me. it should be a good laugh!
i can't help it , steel.
i know manny will lose but i'm curious to see how competitive he is.
if manny doesn't get blown out right away i'd consider it a moral victory for manny.
what pac natural WW???
any boxer at flyweight fly through WW??
why are you so angry with pac pare???
he deserves big money and history....
hayaan mo na si pac... sya bahala sa buhay nya.. ala ka naman magagawa
kung gusto nila..
manood ka na lang.. ingay mo eh
not mad at manny.
i'm just saying shit everyone says in this forum or others i've been on.
just grouchy with all the stupid manny threads today.
felt like making my own manny thread.
i don't blame manny for taking the fight. i'm actually gonna buy it. i think it's worth buying.
i'm kinda disappointed because it's 50/50 now that we won't see guzman-pac or joel-pac or nate-pac or juan-pac but i'm not blaming manny. he has to go with the money. we all would.
just tired of all these people bitching about it. you and i both know all these fuckers whining will be the same ones asking their friends "are you gonna buy the fight?" so they can watch it or they'll be on here , "where can i see the fight? any sopcast?"
a lot of guys have fought tougher fights and worked a lot harder than oscar. i know he gets paid well because of his popularity and him fighting other popular fighters but i'm talking about what he gets paid for what he does compared to what others do. guys who have fought 30-40 fights wouldn't even come close to what oscar makes in ONE fight.
manny pacquiao is not good. he's just okay. he picks on old fighters and smaller fighters. manny is a natural welterweight who used to weight drain to flyweight.
what pac natural WW???
any boxer at flyweight fly through WW??
why are you so angry with pac pare???
he deserves big money and history....
hayaan mo na si pac... sya bahala sa buhay nya.. ala ka naman magagawa
kung gusto nila..
manood ka na lang.. ingay mo eh
i think we should give pac credit where credit is due.
He is a great champion granted those mexicans he beat were old but not way past thier prime. They all still had juice in the tank which pac sucked out.
Oscar is a smart man what can you say? He knows how to make money, thats why Margarito was lickin his chops after beating Cotto. I say if you can make big money out of one fight like that , squeeze teh shit out of it. Do I give a shit who gets paid what? Hell no I wanna see good boxing matches.
We might be surprised and we might not. We will know after a couple rounds.
greatest featherweights of this era.
1. barrera
2. morales
3. marquez
4. hamed
5. pacquiao
a lot of guys have fought tougher fights and worked a lot harder than oscar. i know he gets paid well because of his popularity and him fighting other popular fighters but i'm talking about what he gets paid for what he does compared to what others do. guys who have fought 30-40 fights wouldn't even come close to what oscar makes in ONE fight.
manny pacquiao is not good. he's just okay. he picks on old fighters and smaller fighters. manny is a natural welterweight who used to weight drain to flyweight.
i think we should give pac credit where credit is due.
He is a great champion granted those mexicans he beat were old but not way past thier prime. They all still had juice in the tank which pac sucked out.
Oscar is a smart man what can you say? He knows how to make money, thats why Margarito was lickin his chops after beating Cotto. I say if you can make big money out of one fight like that , squeeze teh shit out of it. Do I give a shit who gets paid what? Hell no I wanna see good boxing matches.
We might be surprised and we might not. We will know after a couple rounds.
Ouch bro
Ill have to start off like this
Oscar has faced top contenders and still has given his age so even with the losses he does deserve the money for the hard work he has put in and out of the boxing game.
Manny Pacquiao is good but I dont think it will go 12 rounds in a fight with DLh.
he isnt used to getting hit by a guy who has immense power at WW
a lot of guys have fought tougher fights and worked a lot harder than oscar. i know he gets paid well because of his popularity and him fighting other popular fighters but i'm talking about what he gets paid for what he does compared to what others do. guys who have fought 30-40 fights wouldn't even come close to what oscar makes in ONE fight.
manny pacquiao is not good. he's just okay. he picks on old fighters and smaller fighters. manny is a natural welterweight who used to weight drain to flyweight.
seriously oscar is a great fighter and he's put on some good fights but does he seriously deserve to get paid how much he does?
and don't even get me started on manny. who has this guy beaten? barrera , morales and marquez? overrated mexican fighters. when is manny gonna fight a black fighter?
Ouch bro
Ill have to start off like this
Oscar has faced top contenders and still has given his age so even with the losses he does deserve the money for the hard work he has put in and out of the boxing game.
Manny Pacquiao is good but I dont think it will go 12 rounds in a fight with DLh.
he isnt used to getting hit by a guy who has immense power at WW
Fuck DLH and let's hope the beatin Pac gets don't blow all the good potential fights he could have at LW.
i doubt we'd ever see pac fight at lightweight again.
even if he losses to oscar if he's competitive and ricky beats paulie......ricky-manny will be on next year.
that's $35 million right there. he'll retire.