Who is better skilled?

Yeah Toney has better p4p skills But that dosen't matter Wlad destroys any version of Toney It does matter because that's what the thread is about.

Toney Toney Toney...

I think Toney is better offensively as far as arsenal of punches, obviously not power. For a while Wlad was using that pretty, pretty double left hook (against Ray Austin I believe). That is such a nice shot, but he hasn't pulled it out in his last couple of fights. Klit has a nice array of shots, but he doesn't seem to be able to fight on the inside for shit whereas that's Toney's gravy. well,,,toney mixes his punches up better and is obviously a better counter puncher but besides wlads last 2 fights (against awckward southpaws) he does have a pretty lethal arsenal. the left hook off the jab and right hand is deadly. toney doesnt bust you up and doesnt have the power. thats why I chose wlad offesnively although toney is more versatile. Im hoping wald shows his full arsenal again now that he;ll be fighting an orthodox fighter

James Toney or Wladimir Klitschko? Forget who would win in a fight. I doubt those two would ever get in the ring against each other. Who has the better skills? Who is better skilled? Prepare to defend your argument. Don't just vote and not explain. toney is or at least was better defensively,,,,wlad offensively

Toney has more skills than any other heavyweight. Sadly he didn't carry any power to the division.

Tua has an excuse, Samoans are big guys. Toney however is a fat fuck. I'm 6' 2", not a profesional athlete, and manage to kep my weight at a steady 175. I am yet to contend with the ravages of age however.

James " Let eat at KFC" Toney racist......

You must be kidding me? Toney hands down, there is literally no fucking comparison in terms of who is the more skilled of the two fighters. Toney is a shoe in for the hall of fame and an all time great fighter. Wlad, well, not so much. try telling that to certain wlad fans.

You must be kidding me? Toney hands down, there is literally no fucking comparison in terms of who is the more skilled of the two fighters. Toney is a shoe in for the hall of fame and an all time great fighter. Wlad, well, not so much.

Wait 'till your my age and you've been looking at the same worn-out piece of ass for 20 years. That'll cure the last part I mentioned. As for the rest, the next day takes the fun out of it. Hangovers are NO fun after about age 35, plus the ice cream will give you indigestion and the screaming shits if you overdo it (you'll be able to shit through a screen door at 60 feet and never hit a wire, I kid you not), and after all's said and done...my ass hurts if I sit around all day anyway, I'd rather be at work, where there's no wife to nag me, no kids to bug me, and things get done my way and mine alone. i wish i could get married. no woman is saintly enough to put up with my shit. my longest girlfriend ever was 4 months! lol well , what i lack in quality i make up for in quantity. :D

i do that now! :D Wait 'till your my age and you've been looking at the same worn-out piece of ass for 20 years. That'll cure the last part I mentioned. As for the rest, the next day takes the fun out of it. Hangovers are NO fun after about age 35, plus the ice cream will give you indigestion and the screaming shits if you overdo it (you'll be able to shit through a screen door at 60 feet and never hit a wire, I kid you not), and after all's said and done...my ass hurts if I sit around all day anyway, I'd rather be at work, where there's no wife to nag me, no kids to bug me, and things get done my way and mine alone.

Well, I can certainly understand the attraction of sitting on my ass and eating cheeseburgers and ice cream all day, chasing it with beer, irish whiskey and pussy, but I live in the real world, I guess those guys are just what they call "larger than life" (pardon the pun.... :D i do that now! :D

and they're professional athletes!!!!!! i'm not much shorter than them. i'm 5'8. when i lift i can get as heavy as 205. i eat whatever the hell i want and when i don't work out i drop down to 190 or so. what kind of condition would we be in if you give us a month or 2 just to work out and train fulltime? geez........ those 2 fat boys. :nonono: Well, I can certainly understand the attraction of sitting on my ass and eating cheeseburgers and ice cream all day, chasing it with beer, irish whiskey and pussy, but I live in the real world, I guess those guys are just what they call "larger than life" (pardon the pun.... :D

No kidding. I'm 6'2", pretty large frame (13 shoe size, xxx gloves) and don't have much trouble staying below 215 to 220 or so, and I pretty much eat what I want, though I stay away from soda and candy (shit's not good for you anyway). Toney could cut back to 20 cheeseburgers a day and drop down to 220 in a month ;) and they're professional athletes!!!!!! i'm not much shorter than them. i'm 5'8. when i lift i can get as heavy as 205. i eat whatever the hell i want and when i don't work out i drop down to 190 or so. what kind of condition would we be in if you give us a month or 2 just to work out and train fulltime? geez........ those 2 fat boys. :nonono:

seriously...... how hard is it for a 5'9 toney to be 210-215 lbs.? how hard is it for a 5'10 tua to be 215-220 lbs.? they wouldn't exactly be starving you know......... No kidding. I'm 6'2", pretty large frame (13 shoe size, xxx gloves) and don't have much trouble staying below 215 to 220 or so, and I pretty much eat what I want, though I stay away from soda and candy (shit's not good for you anyway). Toney could cut back to 20 cheeseburgers a day and drop down to 220 in a month ;)

More impressive, yes. Also kind of hard to watch. If he weren't so slick, and fun to see fight, I'd turn the channel, I swear I would. He's got bigger tits than my wife. seriously...... how hard is it for a 5'9 toney to be 210-215 lbs.? how hard is it for a 5'10 tua to be 215-220 lbs.? they wouldn't exactly be starving you know.........

being out of shape and still being competitive is more impressive than winning by being 4-5 inches taller and outweighing your opponents by 20 lbs. More impressive, yes. Also kind of hard to watch. If he weren't so slick, and fun to see fight, I'd turn the channel, I swear I would. He's got bigger tits than my wife.

Well, make no mistake, Toney, for all his talent and skill, is a fat, disgusting slob, but when he's collecting social security and wearing Depends diapers, he'll still be more skilled than Kiltchko. being out of shape and still being competitive is more impressive than winning by being 4-5 inches taller and outweighing your opponents by 20 lbs.

Well, make no mistake, Toney, for all his talent and skill, is a fat, disgusting slob, but when he's collecting social security and wearing Depends diapers, he'll still be more skilled than Kiltchko.

Hands down James Toney!