I am talking about Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana..
Quintana did a decent job of beating Williams up for 12 rounds..
The second fight was over way before anything about the 1st fight could really be deterimined...
Was it just a Lucky shot???
Should they Fight a 3rd fight???
Or do you think the 1st Fight was the fluke???
i really dont think Williams turned up for the first fight,
if they fought again i think Williams would probably stop him again, he just didnt seem there for the first fight,
I agree with that. It's been my opinion since their first fight that Williams was looking past Quintana and not very focused.
For some reason, William's fans want to carry on as if the first fight never happened. Quintana went into the ring and practically put on a clinic for 3 minutes 12 times. That means that Paul Williams had 3 sets of 60 seconds 12 times to adjust and attempt to turn the fight around also meaning that Quintana effectively utilized skill to defeat a stronger and bigger opponent for 3 sets of 60 seconds 12 times or 36 minutes. For anyone to disregard such an accomplishment because of the way Williams avenged his loss is quite extraordinary.
If Quintana was willing to give Williams a rematch to allow redemption, there should be no reason why Williams should not do the same for Quintana. Each fighter embarrased the other in the best way they know how.
I agree.
I want a rubber match.
I am talking about Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana..
Quintana did a decent job of beating Williams up for 12 rounds..
The second fight was over way before anything about the 1st fight could really be deterimined...
Was it just a Lucky shot???
Should they Fight a 3rd fight???
Or do you think the 1st Fight was the fluke???
my answer is both a little bit.
In the first fight williams didnt show up...his body did but his mind was somewhere else and i felt he didnt apply himself in the first fight...
the second was the first round stoppage and lets face it, i think williams got off to a hot start and quintana got off to a slow one. it shouldnt have been over so quickly/easily.
Therefore a third fight would help to solve all this.
According to the UK media (which is often wrong, to be fair), Paul Williams is going to fight Michael Jennings next.
Some info for you:
Age: 30
Record: 33-1(16KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
Promoter: Frank Warren
Of his first 18 opponents, only one had a winning record
You remember Gary Lockett?
Age: 31
Record: 30-1(20KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
Promoter: Frank Warren
Of his first 18 opponents, 13 had a winning record
He's basically Gary Lockett, but his opposition is worse, he hasn't avenged his defeat, and he doesn't punch as hard. And he's fought outside of the UK less.
Anyone wanna bet on this fight? I got Williams:D
:rofl: You can keep that bet, my friend....
According to the UK media (which is often wrong, to be fair), Paul Williams is going to fight Michael Jennings next.
Some info for you:
Age: 30
Record: 33-1(16KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
Promoter: Frank Warren
Of his first 18 opponents, only one had a winning record
You remember Gary Lockett?
Age: 31
Record: 30-1(20KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
Promoter: Frank Warren
Of his first 18 opponents, 13 had a winning record
He's basically Gary Lockett, but his opposition is worse, he hasn't avenged his defeat, and he doesn't punch as hard. And he's fought outside of the UK less.
Anyone wanna bet on this fight? I got Williams:D
I'm pretty sure this is the fight Williams will take next. Even in Goosen's plan to fight Tony with that "4 million dollar" offer the plan was still to have a tune-up in November and it was most likely Jennings, his mandatory.
About this thread, i think the second fight was more of a fluke, although I would pick Williams to win a third fight, just not in such devastating fashion.
both actually. i don't think quintana could put on another performance as well as the 1st, and i don't think will gets a ko in 1 round again either.
I kind of agree with this, although i dont see either as a fluke i dont see either fighter winning in the maner that they did the first time round.
If i was to pick 1 out as a more fortunate result, i would lean towards the 2nd. Quintana may have just been caught cold in that fight, but the first fight went the distance.
if any fight was a fluke it has to be the second. after all how can a 12 round boxing lesson be a fluke?
Well people could argue Williams was having an off night
None were! You idiot.
Thank you for your well thought out contribution to this thread..
You add nothing,no insight, no opinion, Just a few stupid words and a bad additude..
You Sir, in a nutshell, are what is wrong with this web site.. and perhaps even the world...
I suggest you do the honorable thing and go eat some Rat Poison you brainless piece of shit..:wave:
You know that makes a lot of sense actually since Williams doesn't have many options.
I mean, aren't Cotto and Cintron supposed to be in negotiations? Mosely has Mayorga, and if Margarito and Clottey is a done deal, Berto's got Two pound, I really can't see anybody else right now for PWill. If I'm wrong, somebody correct me, I'm just going on what I have been picking up from this forum.
So, the Clottey Margarito fight is a definite go, right? Then I can see PWill and Quintana having a rubbermatch.
PWill takes him out in 10.
You know that makes a lot of sense actually since Williams doesn't have many options.
If any fight was a fluke it was the rematch. And don't forget in the first round quintana started where he left off. He landed some clean loud shots to williams face. Williams landed one punch that hurt quintana and it was over from there. If you want to call a lucky punch that its. It's stupid people think the second fight proved something it didnt. The whooping quintana put on wililams for 12 rounds was far more impressive than the 1st round ko.
I think people need to give Quitana more credit for his victory over Williams, I know he got knocked out in the rematch but he went 12 rounds with someone who throw about a thousand punches in a fight and he was able to nullify that by sticking his hands up and outbox williams, So i wouldnt call his victory a fluke, Williams was looking to make a statement in the rematch and you could see he wanted to take out Quitana from the word go so i wouldnt call that a fluke either.
I am talking about Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana..
Quintana did a decent job of beating Williams up for 12 rounds..
The second fight was over way before anything about the 1st fight could really be deterimined...
Was it just a Lucky shot???
Should they Fight a 3rd fight???
Or do you think the 1st Fight was the fluke???
Good question Welter, most people just view the first fight as a fluke but Who says The 1rounder wasnt the fluke!
Yeah id like a rubber match here
I thought Quintana won 8 rounds clearly and 9 rounds overall in the first fight. The only thing Williams did different was let Quintana come to him. He did nothing to prove that he cant be outboxed once again.
both actually. i don't think quintana could put on another performance as well as the 1st, and i don't think will gets a ko in 1 round again either.
That seems very reasonable...