It seems like Cotto isnt talked about half as much now as before the Margarito fight? (maybe its just me)
I think think that Cotto is supremely talented and still has a very good career ahead of him, i think in time he could beat Margerito in a rematch and be recognised as the true number 1 WW
this isnt a dig at Margerito btw, his victory was impresive and im not saying he didnt deserve it but it seems to me like people are now disreguarding Cotto after one loss...
Please discuss (and flame me if you must i know some of you want to lol)
Cotto v Williams would be an interesting style matchup. I honestly think Cotto is the best technical boxer in terms of all around skill in the welters right now. He has good gameplanning and he's pretty smart in his ability to adjust midfight. It's just unfortunate for him that Marg's chin happened to be made of fuckin diamond. That said though, I think it'd be an entertaining matchup to watch Cotto try and outbox the taller Williams.
Cotto is as good as were he got. I didn't expect anything spectacular from him. I thought he was an A- fighter. I still have beating all other a- and b fighters. I did not overrate him. He's has a lot of heart. I think he still needs to work on a couple of things.
why do you see Cotto vs Williams as a good match up and why?
you saw what Quintana did to Williams in the first match, right?
You saw how effective Cotto was for a good sized portion of the Margarito fight, right?
that doesnt mean Cotto would win, but he certainly has the tools to win. Do you think that Williams would be able to stand up to the kind of punishment that Cotto was landing on Margarito? but then again, would Cotto be able to land that kind of punishment on Williams at all?
these are questions that promise an entertaining fight. I aint seen Cotto in a bad fight...I aint seen Williams in a bad fight. should work out well to me.
im not sure what tactics he would have to use to win, but in my opinion he should rule a knockout out and go for the points descision, he would have to be EXTREMELY lucky to stop Marg unless it was an absolute peach of a body shot.
I honestly think the SINGLE most important thing that could have turned the fight in Cotto's favor was: The Clinch. I think he just tired himself out too much by using his footwork the whole fight. His whole strategy was to land hard and clean during those flurries when he set his feet, then get some space and keep making Marg readjust, repeat. I don't think it was a bad gameplan, it's just that his tank ran out before the final bell rang. If he would have just CLINCHED instead of moving his feet after just HALF of those exchanges, I think it could have been a different outcome.
/not biased towards either Marg or Cotto, just saying from a tactical standpoint.
A Cotto-Willams fight would be ON POINT!!..
If Cotto gets rid of Cintron his next fight should DEF be WILLIAMS..
that'll determine who really deserves the rematch..
why do you see Cotto vs Williams as a good match up and why?
People concentrate on undefeated records too much. now that Cotto's 0 is gone, they dont care about him. a real shame. styles make fights, and Margarito was just the wrong kind of guy for Cotto in a lot of ways...stamina, Cottos weakness for uppercuts, Cotto's so-so chin, etc.
I want him to fight Williams...after all, he should be his mandatory. I think thats a great fight
It will happen...just maybe not as soon as we'd like it to. But it will come!
People concentrate on undefeated records too much. now that Cotto's 0 is gone, they dont care about him. a real shame. styles make fights, and Margarito was just the wrong kind of guy for Cotto in a lot of ways...stamina, Cottos weakness for uppercuts, Cotto's so-so chin, etc.
I want him to fight Williams...after all, he should be his mandatory. I think thats a great fight
Many ppl talk about going to the body of Margarito to beat him, however they cant because Margs style just wont let you and If you do try to go for the body he will overwhelm your face with hard shots...
This is true, which is why i beleive Cotto, or anyone for that matter would find it extremely hard to stop Margerito, do you agree then that he would need to win by descision or do you think that Cotto simply cant beat him?
im not sure what tactics he would have to use to win, but in my opinion he should rule a knockout out and go for the points descision, he would have to be EXTREMELY lucky to stop Marg unless it was an absolute peach of a body shot.
I would have to agree with you on this. I mean I'm a Marg fan but definitely would like to see a rematch. I think the only effective way for Cotto to beat Marg would have to be going the distance. Getting in mixing it up like he was doing and then running, running like a mother fucker and tying up all night as well. I just don't see Cotto being able to stand in there toe-to-toe with Marg all night. Not good for Cotto. It would have to be a very intelligent fight like I said involving alot of running, tying up and banging Marg accumulating points till the very end of the fight. IMO!
im not sure what tactics he would have to use to win, but in my opinion he should rule a knockout out and go for the points descision, he would have to be EXTREMELY lucky to KO Marg unless it was an absolute peach of a body shot.
Many ppl talk about going to the body of Margarito to beat him, however they cant because Margs style just wont let you and If you do try to go for the body he will overwhelm your face with hard shots...
im not sure what tactics he would have to use to win, but in my opinion he should rule a knockout out and go for the points descision, he would have to be EXTREMELY lucky to stop Marg unless it was an absolute peach of a body shot.
most boxing posters here are like tween queen fans.thats how they act.there's always a change.back and forth with dick riding.
cotto will come back and be better for it.
Bullshit. Cotto is still highly talked about and his fans haven't gone anywhere.
Like I have said before, Miguel Cotto will be back, this will be a growing experience for him, he will fix his flaws and come better, faster and stronger. He seems eager to be at the top again and I believe he will reach it since he wants to fight Kermit Cinton to be considered in the mix of top welterweights again. He also expressed interest in a Margarito Rematch with his quote of:
"We lost 'The Battle'; but not 'The War'"
- Miguel Cotto
and he will beat Margarito the next time around.
He will be back, i was just tripping out when he woulnt talk after the fight, however he must have felt horrible having his first lost. Hopefully a rematch in the future would determine his level in the welther division
He just lost his 0.
So the hype that he had died with his undefeated title!...
But me as a true fan of Cotto believes that he can bounce back from the devastating KO loss he suffered..
I mean he doesn't seem shook to come back..so he must not have been that damaged emotionally..on top of that he's even willing to go in with the BIG puncher Cintron in his Come back in Nov. if Arum agrees...
He still has a few yrs in him and I believe he will avenge his only loss and come and stick to an effective game plan to take Margarito out.
I give props to Cotto, I just don't totally agree with you on how he can come back and beat Marg. I think that coming into the fight Cotto had a plan and that maybe the reason he did'nt stick with it was because it was not working. Cotto even stated that they had a plan B but that also did not work. Now I am not saying that he cannot beat Marg all I am saying is that I don't see what would change since it was Marg's style that gave Cotto trouble. In your opinion what would Cotto have to do to win? What effective game plan in your opinion would work for Cotto?
I agree with you, i think he should have a tune up early 2009 maybe and then possibly fight someone like Cintron and then try the rematch with Margarito possibly?
I still think Cotto wins in a rematch. It is hard to talk about Cotto when a Margaretard will ultimately put him down at the mere sight of his name. its like as soon as they see his name he gets flamed by Margaretards.
Cotto was the better skilled fighter who just needs to change his training to beat a simple anotnio margarito.
Cotto will be back and better than ever. I dont believe this "he will never be the same after such a beating" because he didnt go out on a stretcher or didnt get severely hurt, Yes cut up but both Margarito and Cotto took beatings in there.
Cotto will take redemption on margarito just watch
Not at all, Cotto will be back. I am genuinely interested in finding out how if at all the Marg fight affected him. Not dissing Cotto at all by this but the only way we will know is by seeing him in another big fight like he had with Marg. He will be back with some tune-ups and then back to fighting big fights again.
IMO.
I agree with you, i think he should have a tune up early 2009 maybe and then possibly fight someone like Cintron and then try the rematch with Margarito possibly?