Antonio Margarito

Playing dumb... i love that old trick BEING dumb. I hate that old trick. This thread is dead. Peace.

What do you mean by bully? What does he do? Steal money from them? Playing dumb... i love that old trick

My point is still valid. will you argue the fact that if you take away his ability to bully he aint that good? What do you mean by bully? What does he do? Steal money from them?

Yea...the guys is trying to make money by fighting Oscar... CAN YOU BLAME HIM?? he wont get Oscar, personally i think that he should take Judah. As much as it is a shit fight that i dont want to see Judah is big draw and Margarito deserves a big and easy pay day. Thats coming from a Cotto fan btw.

LOL @ this backtracking. First you say Margarito struggles when faced with fighters his own size. Then you're asked like who, to which you respond with Santos, Clottey & Williams. It's pointed out that two of those three are actually bigger than him. Now your point has been amended. LOLOL. My point is still valid. will you argue the fact that if you take away his ability to bully he aint that good?

My point is that when Margarito fights against people his own size or bigger it negates his biggest strength. His ability to bully LOL @ this backtracking. First you say Margarito struggles when faced with fighters his own size. Then you're asked like who, to which you respond with Santos, Clottey & Williams. It's pointed out that two of those three are actually bigger than him. Now your point has been amended. LOLOL.

would someone like to pass judgement on this thread? Yea...the guys is trying to make money by fighting Oscar... CAN YOU BLAME HIM??

Nonsense. One is bigger than the other. If three inches is a small difference (and Williams having fought at middleweight a couple times) then you have no right to complain about what Margarito does. Your thread is fast being exposed. I wonder if you made one like this when Cotto was at 140. First you said Santos was the same size until you were silenced. Then when it was pointed out how Williams absolutely towered over Margarito and was the bigger fighter, you say we're arguing over small differences. Hah, someone coulda told you that about this thread. My point is that when Margarito fights against people his own size or bigger it negates his biggest strength. His ability to bully

You are being pedantic about small differances. they are both really big welters Nonsense. One is bigger than the other. If three inches is a small difference (and Williams having fought at middleweight a couple times) then you have no right to complain about what Margarito does. Your thread is fast being exposed. I wonder if you made one like this when Cotto was at 140. First you said Santos was the same size until you were silenced. Then when it was pointed out how Williams absolutely towered over Margarito and was the bigger fighter, you say we're arguing over small differences. Hah, someone coulda told you that about this thread.

How is Williams the same size as Margarito? You are being pedantic about small differances. they are both really big welters

So why does Williams deserve to be a WW if he can make weight but you say Margarito should be fighting at Jr. MW? Margarito can obviously make weight so why cant he fight at WW? Yeah man, that was cleared up shortly after the fight. He just had a bruised knuckle. I believe that Margarito and Williams are in the same boat. The imo should are perfect for LM but if they can make the ww weight limit i have no grumbles about it.

Williams and Clottey two boxers who were his size and he struggles, Fair play the santos fight i believe that he would have won but it wasnt looking like a walk in the park. His main weapons are his size and his work rate. Take away his size and then all he has is work rate. Williams boxing technique vs Margarito's work rate i give it to Williams technique 70% of the time. Thats my own personal opinion. How is Williams the same size as Margarito?

I said earlier that i peronally think he has a LM frame but if he makes the weight he deserves to be in the division. As for the Clottey/Margarito thing i also stated that i was not sure of the circumstances of Clotteys hand. So why does Williams deserve to be a WW if he can make weight but you say Margarito should be fighting at Jr. MW? Margarito can obviously make weight so why cant he fight at WW? Yeah man, that was cleared up shortly after the fight. He just had a bruised knuckle.

If you think Marg should be a Jr MW because of his size, then i guess you also think that Paul Williams should be fighting at Light HW. Clottey didnt break anything, all he had was a bruised knuckle. Margarito had a sprained ankle and fractured hand. I said earlier that i peronally think he has a LM frame but if he makes the weight he deserves to be in the division. As for the Clottey/Margarito thing i also stated that i was not sure of the circumstances of Clotteys hand.

thats good at least im not imaging it then lol yeah boxing rec seems more likely and would negate most of if not all of my argument. was checking on williams stats as well he has like 82 inch reach longer than klitchko at 81 crazy. i can see why he gave margarito a tough time as from what i hear along with that size he is fast and skillfull, I havent seen that fight as yet though. Lol! Yeah i knew about Williams/Klitchko fuckin nutz aint it!? How he makes 147lbs i'll never know! But like i said earlier if u can make it then fair play!

I dont know what to think about this guy. I am a Cotto fan but margarito put on one hell of a performance and for that i give him respect. However i believe that he should be a jnr Middleweight and has made a career of bullying smaller opponents Except: Cintron who has no boxing ability and just looks for that one big K.O punch and cant take body shots Clottey: He beat him on points but i am led to believe that Clottey broke his hand early on and Margarito still struggled Williams: He lost to a boxer his own size because he could not bully him/ Now this is the bit that gets me. He is calling out Oscar but he has unfinished business with Williams and hasnt even mentioned his name once since the Cotto fight which would like like he is scarred. He says that Williams is not big box office and all you Margo fans agree but why was it so differant when floyd done it to Margo? He claims to be the most feared man in boxing but i would say since he fears Williams, Williams takes that crown. Williams is the only boxer in the Welterweight division bar Berto (Protected and still young) who has beaten every opponent he has faced at welter so he is the No.1 welter in ther world imo. However Margarito has had a hard career and is now on top and i would not grudge him a few easy big money fights against Zab and Oscar if that is what he wishes but he should at least tell the boxing world of his plans for Williams before he starts slagging off Oscar for trying to fight the smaller guy in manny, he has been doing it for years If you think Marg should be a Jr MW because of his size, then i guess you also think that Paul Williams should be fighting at Light HW. Clottey didnt break anything, all he had was a bruised knuckle. Margarito had a sprained ankle and fractured hand.

Im pretty sure they said on fight nite the reach was the same, which shocked me. Ud think HBO would be right but Box rec sounds more beleivable, someone will clear it up soon im sure ( I cant be arsed!) thats good at least im not imaging it then lol yeah boxing rec seems more likely and would negate most of if not all of my argument. was checking on williams stats as well he has like 82 inch reach longer than klitchko at 81 crazy. i can see why he gave margarito a tough time as from what i hear along with that size he is fast and skillfull, I havent seen that fight as yet though.

Bingo. Margs cleans up... IF and thats a Big If... he can beat williams.. and Cotto doesnt try and come in somewhere unless he goes after Berto IF Cotto wants the shot (and he has said he wants a rematch in the near future) im sure Bob will get him it and Id bet on Miguel getting revenge over the distance with a UD! :boxing:

Yeah true punching up would take that bit more out of you. Seems I could have been wrong about the reachs as well. I looked it up on boxing rec there and it says margarito had a 73 - 67 reach advantage but I am nearly sure coverage of the fight had them at the same reach despite the height difference. If I am wrong about that then I take back what I said. Im pretty sure they said on fight nite the reach was the same, which shocked me. Ud think HBO would be right but Box rec sounds more beleivable, someone will clear it up soon im sure ( I cant be arsed!)

Good Call! Thought of it all on my own. aint i a clever little tosser. lol It is in my opinion the best route for Margarito. He would fight zab for a big money day that he deserves then fight for three of the 4 titles something which i dont think floyd ever held at welter (i may be corrected) plus it would give him bragging rights over Floyd and put media pressure on Floyd for the big payday he wants Bingo. Margs cleans up... IF and thats a Big If... he can beat williams.. and Cotto doesnt try and come in somewhere unless he goes after Berto