Call me crazy, but I believe Pac can beat ODLH easily

When rumors of this fight first surfaced months ago, I was as much against it as anyone else, obviously due to the size difference. Oscar has fought at middleweight and Pac had been below 130 his entire career when this bout was first discussed. However, comparing both of them NOW, I see MANY advantages for Pacquiao. Oscar got hit a lot more than he expected by Steve Forbes, an average fighter who is not very fast and who was fighting 10 lbs. above his best weight. Despite having no power either, he busted Oscar's face up. Unlike Pacquiao, Forbes is not a pressure fighter, he has a much more passive style and is not in your face all the time like the much faster and precise Manny. We all know Oscar's stamina issues, they have been a problem for him throughout his career. This is his first fight at 147 since 2001, and even in 1999 vs. Tito he had to get on the scales twice to be at 147. Oscar is not 26 anymore, he's 35, and making weight is MUCH harder, not to mention having the same energy for 36 minutes. The jump from 130-147 may seem drastic for Manny, but when you consider that he gets in the ring at about 144, the move may actually benefit him. By not having to drain himself by 10-15 pounds the day before the fight, he probably will have more energy on fight night. If he just stays at 145 for a few weeks before the fight, he'll be fresher and stronger than ever because he would not need to rehydrate for the fight. All of this combined with Oscar's diminishing skills (less stamina, slower hand/foot speed, declining reflexes) and Manny's strengths (speed, relentless attack, power) make this a very interesting fight. I believe the main factor is if Manny can handle Oscar's power. I see no reason why he shouldn't, as Steve Forbes was not hurt in ANY moment during their fight, and he is also much smaller than Oscar. If Manny starts early (and he always does), he will wear Oscar out with his speed and constant attack, and Oscar's already diminished power will be even worse down the stretch. When you factor in his stamina issues and the fact that he WILL be very weight drained, this makes it a VERY winnable fight for Pacquiao, and he just might do so in impressive fashion. ONLY A FEW PEOPLE SAW THIS and NOW SOME are even claiming the fight is rigged ... and your a GENIUS!!!

i think its safe to say u are not crazy! lol nicely done!

Good job on your prediction. I was hoping Manny could do it, and glad he did it.

Tito: You were absolutely correct. Congrats. :wave:

DLH have way more power Wrong. he speed still very good Wrong. his jab is very good too Wrong.

Pac ain't winnin this. yes you are so right

When rumors of this fight first surfaced months ago, I was as much against it as anyone else, obviously due to the size difference. Oscar has fought at middleweight and Pac had been below 130 his entire career when this bout was first discussed. However, comparing both of them NOW, I see MANY advantages for Pacquiao. Oscar got hit a lot more than he expected by Steve Forbes, an average fighter who is not very fast and who was fighting 10 lbs. above his best weight. Despite having no power either, he busted Oscar's face up. Unlike Pacquiao, Forbes is not a pressure fighter, he has a much more passive style and is not in your face all the time like the much faster and precise Manny. We all know Oscar's stamina issues, they have been a problem for him throughout his career. This is his first fight at 147 since 2001, and even in 1999 vs. Tito he had to get on the scales twice to be at 147. Oscar is not 26 anymore, he's 35, and making weight is MUCH harder, not to mention having the same energy for 36 minutes. The jump from 130-147 may seem drastic for Manny, but when you consider that he gets in the ring at about 144, the move may actually benefit him. By not having to drain himself by 10-15 pounds the day before the fight, he probably will have more energy on fight night. If he just stays at 145 for a few weeks before the fight, he'll be fresher and stronger than ever because he would not need to rehydrate for the fight. All of this combined with Oscar's diminishing skills (less stamina, slower hand/foot speed, declining reflexes) and Manny's strengths (speed, relentless attack, power) make this a very interesting fight. I believe the main factor is if Manny can handle Oscar's power. I see no reason why he shouldn't, as Steve Forbes was not hurt in ANY moment during their fight, and he is also much smaller than Oscar. If Manny starts early (and he always does), he will wear Oscar out with his speed and constant attack, and Oscar's already diminished power will be even worse down the stretch. When you factor in his stamina issues and the fact that he WILL be very weight drained, this makes it a VERY winnable fight for Pacquiao, and he just might do so in impressive fashion. Did I call it or what? I bet everyone who went against me here must feel stupid as **** right about now.

Do you honestly believe that this matters in real life? Really? Honest question. Well in the Philippines, everone adores him. He's considered their national hero. That brings temedous pressure on his part come fight night because he represents the people. He knows that, and that's why he always dedicating his fights to his people.. So yes, i do believe it will be motivate even more not to quit.

If Pac survives the first 5 rounds, it will be his victory. Easily? I can;t really tell. De la Hoya's conditioning is quite a secret at this point.

i'm with you tito. IMO, i believe pacquiao will pull out an upset. Its not so much the size difference but on who wants it more. Pacquiao is carrying the pride of millions on his shoulder and theres nothing that will keep him from fighting on. De la hoya will eventually land his power left hook but Pacquiao will walk through it. It will only spark a madness in him to return the punch back. F***K the haters! This is gonna be an explosive fight! Fireworks from the openning bell till the end. I can't wait..:boxing: Do you honestly believe that this matters in real life? Really? Honest question.

i'm with you tito. IMO, i believe pacquiao will pull out an upset. Its not so much the size difference but on who wants it more. Pacquiao is carrying the pride of millions on his shoulder and theres nothing that will keep him from fighting on. De la hoya will eventually land his power left hook but Pacquiao will walk through it. It will only spark a madness in him to return the punch back. F***K the haters! This is gonna be an explosive fight! Fireworks from the openning bell till the end. I can't wait..:boxing:

When rumors of this fight first surfaced months ago, I was as much against it as anyone else, obviously due to the size difference. Oscar has fought at middleweight and Pac had been below 130 his entire career when this bout was first discussed. However, comparing both of them NOW, I see MANY advantages for Pacquiao. Oscar got hit a lot more than he expected by Steve Forbes, an average fighter who is not very fast and who was fighting 10 lbs. above his best weight. Despite having no power either, he busted Oscar's face up. Unlike Pacquiao, Forbes is not a pressure fighter, he has a much more passive style and is not in your face all the time like the much faster and precise Manny. We all know Oscar's stamina issues, they have been a problem for him throughout his career. This is his first fight at 147 since 2001, and even in 1999 vs. Tito he had to get on the scales twice to be at 147. Oscar is not 26 anymore, he's 35, and making weight is MUCH harder, not to mention having the same energy for 36 minutes. The jump from 130-147 may seem drastic for Manny, but when you consider that he gets in the ring at about 144, the move may actually benefit him. By not having to drain himself by 10-15 pounds the day before the fight, he probably will have more energy on fight night. If he just stays at 145 for a few weeks before the fight, he'll be fresher and stronger than ever because he would not need to rehydrate for the fight. All of this combined with Oscar's diminishing skills (less stamina, slower hand/foot speed, declining reflexes) and Manny's strengths (speed, relentless attack, power) make this a very interesting fight. I believe the main factor is if Manny can handle Oscar's power. I see no reason why he shouldn't, as Steve Forbes was not hurt in ANY moment during their fight, and he is also much smaller than Oscar. If Manny starts early (and he always does), he will wear Oscar out with his speed and constant attack, and Oscar's already diminished power will be even worse down the stretch. When you factor in his stamina issues and the fact that he WILL be very weight drained, this makes it a VERY winnable fight for Pacquiao, and he just might do so in impressive fashion. Daym good try..... Very good thread mate..... This is what i spected before the fight was signed....

Funny how a lot more people are with me now. Gotta love the way 24/7 works.

Is the only reason Oscar will win because he is bigger? No one has said any other reason, and I offered plenty as to why this alone may not be the deciding factor.

Does it look any more brutal than this pic? :D It depends on the camera angle. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ghsgR3f77czY/610x.jpg oscar: hey guys.. look what i found in the street.....lets adopt him and take him home. :lol1:

I just saw a picture of Manny standing beside De La Hoya, the size difference is brutal http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0313/box_a_mpacquiao_300.jpg Does it look any more brutal than this pic? :D It depends on the camera angle. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ghsgR3f77czY/610x.jpg

I just saw a picture of Manny standing beside De La Hoya, the size difference is brutal http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0313/box_a_mpacquiao_300.jpg R.I.P. manny pacquiao

... yea you are a little crazy this fight blows... i hope it never comes off

You couldn't beat me......:D But really, this fight is asscheeks. Will I buy it, in HD? No doubt. I just see no reason for it. I mean, the cheddar is there. But outside of that? DLH is going to be up for this one. I love Manny, but he gets smashed in this one. Great post. Couldn't have said it better myself. Btw, the other guy got the quote wrong. It's "A good big buy usually beats a great little guy"

yeah well, a good big man beats a good little man... You couldn't beat me......:D But really, this fight is asscheeks. Will I buy it, in HD? No doubt. I just see no reason for it. I mean, the cheddar is there. But outside of that? DLH is going to be up for this one. I love Manny, but he gets smashed in this one.