Olympic boxing scoring is absurd!!!!It's very similar to Toughman contests.

Okay they have 5 judges. Why don't they have 7 and have the same system of a point being scored if 3 judges press the button within a second of eachother. Tell these fools that Jabs and body shots count. Problem solved.

Reyes may not have fought smart, But i liked him a lot. I found him entertaining to watch :) He might make a good pro. In the Am's I prefer skilled guys like Korobov, Frankie Gavin, and Correa. I like guys that can go in, be aggressive to take a lead, and then be elusive, and still score effectively while moving. :) Like Boris Georgiev, who fought a beautiful fight to completely outclass Javier Molina at 64kg.

Yes, a lot of punches aren't scored. Reyes wasn't fighting very smart. He should know what scores and what doesn't. Standing close to your opponent, banging away doesn't score much, because the view of the judges will be blocked on 3 of 4 sides. Boxing at a distance, and hitting the body from outside will score, since the judges can see what's going on. Reyes may not have fought smart, But i liked him a lot. I found him entertaining to watch :)

I can't remember many of the guys names. But I have seen a fair few fights were body shots have gone un noticed. Arturo Reyes, a mexican featherweight, landed some good body shot that were not counted I know that. They may be scored, but often they are not as well. Yes, a lot of punches aren't scored. Reyes wasn't fighting very smart. He should know what scores and what doesn't. Standing close to your opponent, banging away doesn't score much, because the view of the judges will be blocked on 3 of 4 sides. Boxing at a distance, and hitting the body from outside will score, since the judges can see what's going on. You don't have this problem in the pro's, because, conveniently, they're not held accountable for what they're seeing and what they miss. They just give one guy 10 points at the end of the round, and the other 9 or less. Not the most accurate way to judge a sport where you have to hit the other guy and not get hit yourself... Now, if 3 sides of four are blocked in when two am's are fighting up close, the same thing will be true in the pro's. This means the judges won't see the same thing either. This is just hidden, because the scoring is a fuzzy, inaccurate 10 point system.

That may be so, since I don't know which fights you're talking about, I can't disprove your claim. However, you started out claiming that bodyshots didn't count. Since I've seen bodyshots counted in nearly ever match I've seen so far, that is definitely wrong. Bodyshots do get counted. :) I can't remember many of the guys names. But I have seen a fair few fights were body shots have gone un noticed. Arturo Reyes, a mexican featherweight, landed some good body shot that were not counted I know that. They may be scored, but often they are not as well.

Just today I have seen 2 or 3 fights where body shots have gone full un-noticed. That may be so, since I don't know which fights you're talking about, I can't disprove your claim. However, you started out claiming that bodyshots didn't count. Since I've seen bodyshots counted in nearly ever match I've seen so far, that is definitely wrong. Bodyshots do get counted. :)

I think the new system that punchdrunk is talking about sounds about as good as it will get. It takes out the need for unison, eliminating discrepancies in reaction time as well as ensuring clean punches will be scored by at least one of the judges even if the angle is wrong for the rest. Yeah, I think it'll be pretty good. I actually like the system as it is now, if they'd go back to a higher scoring like they had a few years ago. My main gripe is not with the system, but the people doing the judging (and the fact that they get away with some of the shit they pull). There are problems with the scoring, but there are problems in the pro's as well, and there always will be, as long as you have people judging, since it will always be subjective who should win. Pro or am.

You miss the point completely. Imagine two fighters going silmuntaneously to the body for 4 rounds. How would you call that, definately not sweet science. That would be a toughman contest. A chinman contest and endurance man contest, who can take it to the body more contest. Definately not a skill contest. That's how amateur boxing is scored now, on a punch by punch basis. It's not scored on rounds.

Nobody is saying the system isn't flawed, but counting body shots will make it more flawed. How many of Tony's body shots counted for the judges in the first 6 rounds against Cotto? Exactly! Body shots matter cause they hurt the opponent, set him up, etc. Refs can't count body shots in the pro game let alone in the amateurs. Give it a rest already, I mean all of you! Margarito got credit for the body shots in the second round, apart from that round Cotto was outlanding and outboxing Margarito and it's a totally different scoring system. Body shots are part of the scoring system so they should be scored. Again, it's a different scoring system in the professionals. The professional scoring criteria is totally different from the amateur scoring criteria. Amateurs are only given credit for clean effective punching, if a clean effective body shot is landed, credit should be given where credit is due.

MY GOD, There is china guy fighting now and they are giving him a point everytime he puts his hand on the oppenent from the Ukraine!

I think the new system that punchdrunk is talking about sounds about as good as it will get. It takes out the need for unison, eliminating discrepancies in reaction time as well as ensuring clean punches will be scored by at least one of the judges even if the angle is wrong for the rest.

No, pre-92 they scored each round on a 20 point scoring system (like the 10 point one in pro boxing). Now they'll still have a computer, the judges must press for landed punches, but the scores will be individual, no combined score. For the record, bodypunches do score (though not all of them), so watch the fights, guys. Just today I have seen 2 or 3 fights where body shots have gone full un-noticed.

Imagine if you score body punches everybody will throw to the body and the guy with the harder chin and more endurance will win. Besides, it makes it that much harder for the judges to score the blows cause often they are not as clear. If you score the body shots in an amateur point system it will be attrocious, why do you think they are not scoring them. Popescu just landed 35 clean left hooks on Ali, none of them counted but Popescu still landed 20 clean head shots. Body shots are important in the amateurs but in the current point system they are not counted and rightully so. Fighters should be credited with landing effective body shots, Popescu should have gotten credit for the body shots he landed so should all the other fighters that have landed effective body shots. Just because judges score body shots doesn't mean fighters have to neglect the head shots, I honestly don't know how the scoring could get worse. I think they're not scoring them because they deem them not to be thrown with significant force or something. It's stupid. Even some clear head snapping shots don't get scored by the judges. Body punching in the professional ranks aren't as good as they used to be, I mean there are still some marvelous body punchers in the sport but nowhere near as many effective body punchers as there used to be and I think the amateur scoring system is partly to blame. I don't like this scoring system, they need at least 3 judges to press the button within 1 second of each other, some of them just aren't fast enough to press the button or sometimes 2 or 3 of the judges can't see because the fighters are not facing them, it's a flawed system.

So going back to pre-92? No, pre-92 they scored each round on a 20 point scoring system (like the 10 point one in pro boxing). Now they'll still have a computer, the judges must press for landed punches, but the scores will be individual, no combined score. For the record, bodypunches do score (though not all of them), so watch the fights, guys.

I agree, body shots are some of the most effective punches in the whole of boxing, if they don't get scored then what's the point.

What's funny is that American boxer rarely throw to the body in these Olympics, yet , American fans are the one that emphasize that Americans go to the body moreso than others. People throw to the body to slow their opponents down not to get points, you see how big the ring is and how much running goes on. If bodypunches were counted it would be the most ridiculous olympics. Body shots are supposed to be scored in the amateurs, it's a scoring zone. It's ridiculous that fighters don't get credit for those shots.

So going back to pre-92?

The scoring is, for the most part, just fine. So far they've had the right winner in every bout I've watched. Can the same thing be said for pro fights??? Nope. I think a lot of the frustration you guys have with the scoring is based on the fact that it is a lot different than what goes on in the pro's. If you were used to am boxing, you'd probably think pro fighting and the scoring there was weird. They are changing the system a bit after the Olympics though. It'll be 3 rounds of 3 minutes, and the scoring will be done individually. The judges will still have to push for landed punches (which in my view is much fairer than the "I like this guy better" criteria of the pro's), but they'll be individually counted, and the bout will have a 5-0, 4-1, or 3-2 judges verdict.

Olympic boxing scoring sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did anyone see that horrible match last night (China vs Brazil)? It looked like they were break dancing with eachother when in close. I tried watching it, but had to change the channel 2 minutes into it!