I may get called all kind of names. But I still Think Cotto-Mayweather would be a great match.
Cotto and Mayweather are More evenly Match than any other 2 fighters in boxing each of them have their advantages over each other, And each would push the fight to the limit fight just because of the history of these past two fighters.
If Cotto get his head straight again. it would be a great fight.
Think about it like this:
Just because Frazior Beat Ali, It didnt mean Foremen could beat Ali.
and Foremen beat the Shit of out Frazior.
So I think Cotto- Floyd with Be Exactly like Ali-Frazior.
Exact Styles, and Exact Personalites.
just think about it...
Cotto style and Frazior Style
Floyd's Style and Ali Style..
It would be a great fight. but too bad It wouldnt have as much hype as it would have if Cotto would have been undefeated.
If Cotto can beat Margarito in impressive fashion.
I think he needs to call out Floyd before Floyd fights Pacquaio.
So the HYPE can return 4 Floyd to give his farewell fight against Cotto and Not Pacquaio.
And That could be floyd's gift to all the latino's
who supported him all these years.
Here is a Fact.
Latino's talk about Floyd more than blacks do.
Latino's would give Floyd his love, If he just give their boy Cotto a shot.
When I read these boards, and see how mostly all the Latino's
fans are still talking about Floyd 1 year After he retired..
It is because they are mad that Floyd didnt give their guy a chance to shine
and they are holding it against him.
If Floyd Fights Cotto..Win or Lose...
Latino's will show him love and get off his back.
My Puerto Rican Brother in law..
Said If Cotto and Floyd ever fought.
Ever Puerto Rican alive would order this fight...
I think Floyd vs. Cotto
beats Oscar vs.Tito
P.P_V wise.....
I still feel the same way in 2009
Although given the choice between Pacquio vs.Mayweather or
Cotto vs.Mayweather I pick pac pbf
Floyd-Manny would be huge, but I think Floyd wins a strategic fight. Cotto-Mayweather I think is the more competitive fight. Im no fan, but make no mistake, I know how good Floyd is. But I think Cotto gives him fits and has a good chance of winning, especially with Floyd being this inactive.
Willams and Cotto are the only ones I would take a chance and bet to beat Mayweather. But I don't think Williams will be at 147 again no matter what he ays, and Floyd aint trying to go up for that big a chance for what to him would be a crappy ass payday.
same shit i said here.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183936&highlight=floyd+mayweather
some people on this site are ridiculously dense.everything has to be literally in line.
you can't even be slightly romantic about boxing history repeating itself.
deja vu in boxing happens all the time.
I may get called all kind of names. But I still Think Cotto-Mayweather would be a great match.
Cotto and Mayweather are More evenly Match than any other 2 fighters in boxing each of them have their advantages over each other, And each would push the fight to the limit fight just because of the history of these past two fighters.
If Cotto get his head straight again. it would be a great fight.
Think about it like this:
Just because Frazior Beat Ali, It didnt mean Foremen could beat Ali.
and Foremen beat the Shit of out Frazior.
So I think Cotto- Floyd with Be Exactly like Ali-Frazior.
Exact Styles, and Exact Personalites.
just think about it...
Cotto style and Frazior Style
Floyd's Style and Ali Style..
It would be a great fight. but too bad It wouldnt have as much hype as it would have if Cotto would have been undefeated.
I still feel the same way in 2009
Although given the choice between Pacquio vs.Mayweather or
Cotto vs.Mayweather I pick pac pbf
who ever calls you names for thinking Cotto/Mayweather would be an awesome fight are fucking idiots. Of course it would be a great fight. All this "cotto is too flawed" shit is just a cop out. Baldomir/Hatton/De La Hoya/Corrales/Gatti all had flaws and were not perfect fighters.
its awesome to see 2 fighters who seem to be physically matched fight because the contrast in ability and skill becomes so apparent. Thats why Mayweather/Judah is one of my favorite fights.
I have been on this board for a short time, but on 1 thing i do notice is that we have alot of extremist on this site.
It is either or with most of the posters on this site.
Maybe you guys are just products of your environment.
-as they do you do
and it is funny because even some of the extremist seem like cool people.
so i knew making a thread about Cotto/Floyd would get me a red bar quick. lol
I will politely disagree with you about the disadvantages you speak of. But even if that is the case, would you not agree that Floyd has advantages in skill and speed over just about every fighter at 147? Like you said, its about styles. But nobody should get a free pass because we might THINK one style would trump another. The best set out to prove it. Thats all Im saying.
I'll be back later. Gotta get to the gym.
good work...we can agree too disagree..I am fine with that.
my point was that Mayweather is at a disadvantage at WW. you made it seem like he was on equal terms with everybody. when he is not.
Mayweather and Cotto where in the same division twice 140 and 147.
so i dont compare cotto with the other WW's.
thats why i think Mayweather and cotto would be a fair fight. in which both would have their advantages
I will politely disagree with you about the disadvantages you speak of. But even if that is the case, would you not agree that Floyd has advantages in skill and speed over just about every fighter at 147? Like you said, its about styles. But nobody should get a free pass because we might THINK one style would trump another. The best set out to prove it. Thats all Im saying.
I'll be back later. Gotta get to the gym.
I genuinely believe that Margarito, Cotto and Mayweather are the equivalent of Foreman, Frazier and Ali.
It's Rock paper scissors! Styles make fights,
Cotto (a stocky infighter, frazier) beats a pure boxer, Mayweather (Ali).
Margarito (a tall tough and powerful slugger, Foreman) beats Cotto (Frazier)
Mayweather (Ali) a pure boxer beats A slugger such as Margarito (Foreman!!!
:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Great point.
While i think cotto could beat Mayweather.
I dont think he is better than Mayweather.
Like I said before.
If they fought 5 times.
Mayweather would win 4.
but I honetly Believe Cotto would win 1.
and Thats why i want to see this fight.
I genuinely believe that Margarito, Cotto and Mayweather are the equivalent of Foreman, Frazier and Ali.
It's Rock paper scissors! Styles make fights,
Cotto (a stocky infighter, frazier) beats a pure boxer, Mayweather (Ali).
Margarito (a tall tough and powerful slugger, Foreman) beats Cotto (Frazier)
Mayweather (Ali) a pure boxer beats A slugger such as Margarito (Foreman!!!
:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Now how much fun would the welterweight division be if all these guys fought each other as well as the great supporting cast around them. Thats what boxing should be about.
My man, not for nothing, but how can you write THIS yet debate who Floyd should have or haven't fought on the other thread? This is all I want. The best against best. Contrasting styles etc. I don't know you on here well enough to judge you, and Im not going to, but this is like a complete 180. If Im off base, my bad.
my point was that Mayweather is at a disadvantage at WW. you made it seem like he was on equal terms with everybody. when he is not.
Mayweather and Cotto were in the same division twice 140 and 147.
so i dont compare cotto with the other WW's.
thats why i think Mayweather and cotto would be a fair fight. in which both would have their advantages
I genuinely believe that Margarito, Cotto and Mayweather are the equivalent of Foreman, Frazier and Ali.
It's Rock paper scissors! Styles make fights,
Cotto (a stocky infighter, frazier) beats a pure boxer, Mayweather (Ali).
Margarito (a tall tough and powerful slugger, Foreman) beats Cotto (Frazier)
Mayweather (Ali) a pure boxer beats A slugger such as Margarito (Foreman!!!
:boxing::boxing::boxing:
Come on.. Ali and Mayweathers style are completely different..! I have never seen Mayweather dance in the ring or seen Ali do the Shoulder lean. Cotto isn't a knockout puncher like Fraizer were either..! Cotto have growned into a good alround fighter, especially after his fight with Mosley..! I think these 4 people are to different to compare.. I do, however, think Mayweather would beat Cotto easily on a UD. Mayweather is an absolute master of what he does, Cotto is not
He isn't saying they are carbon copies he is just saying that the story is a little similar.
Come on.. Ali and Mayweathers style are completely different..! I have never seen Mayweather dance in the ring or seen Ali do the Shoulder lean. Cotto isn't a knockout puncher like Fraizer were either..! Cotto have growned into a good alround fighter, especially after his fight with Mosley..! I think these 4 people are to different to compare.. I do, however, think Mayweather would beat Cotto easily on a UD. Mayweather is an absolute master of what he does, Cotto is not
huh?
Be a realist.
I can honestly say. That if Floyd and Cotto fought 5 times.
Cotto would win 1 of those fights.
His style is not all pressure with Mayweather would Eat up...! Thats why Margarito wouldnt win 1 round against Mayweather.
Cotto can actually box and actually punch. He is the perfect fit for A great fight with floyd. PERIOD
Floyd would have to fight Cotto.
He wouldnt just be able just Do to cotto what he did to hatton.
he would have to fight Cotto just like how he fought Chavez.
And that would be a great fight to watch
you may be right.. but i think if Floyd and cotto fought 5 times..Floyd would win 4 times.
but with Cotto i just have a feeling that he could get floyd at least 1 time.
and thats what makes it interesting.
My man, not for nothing, but how can you write THIS yet debate who Floyd should have or haven't fought on the other thread? This is all I want. The best against best. Contrasting styles etc. I don't know you on here well enough to judge you, and Im not going to, but this is like a complete 180. If Im off base, my bad.
but you get what i am saying....the styles Match.
Cotto and Margarito style didnt match.
Just like Foremen and Frazior styles didnt match.
Thats why Ali beat Foremen and Frazior beat Ali. to be fair Ali did go on and beat frazior 2 out of the 3 times... but you get the point
styles make fights and I agree.
Mayorga beat Vernon who beat Mosley who beat De La Hoya.
De La Hoya beat Mayorga.
Triangular correlation never works.
"I still say Cotto beats Floyd Mayweather. And Mayweather beats Margarito." - William Dettloff
you may be right.. but i think if Floyd and cotto fought 5 times..Floyd would win 4 times.
but with Cotto i just have a feeling that he could get floyd at least 1 time.
and thats what makes it interesting.