Manny Pacquiao
Joe Calzaghe
Juan Manuel Marquez
Bernard Hopkins
Israel Vazquez
Antonio Margarito
Kelly Pavlik
Cristian Mijares
Rafael Marquez
Miguel Cotto
Why is B-Hop #4?
Jones Jr?!? :wtf:
He hasn't beaten a top 10 fighter in over four years, and he's been KO'd twice since then.
Also Hopkins being #4 is a joke by the magazines owners. You don't lost three of your last five and stay rated that high in honest ratings.
But he beat the top light heavyweight and then beat the #4 pound for pound and so that's what got him up there. Then he lost to another top pound for pound fighter.
So he turned around his career and then he just recently lost.
Jones Jr?!? :wtf:
He hasn't beaten a top 10 fighter in over four years, and he's been KO'd twice since then.
Also Hopkins being #4 is a joke by the magazines owners. You don't lost three of your last five and stay rated that high in honest ratings.
That's an excellent question.. Where is Roy Jones in the P4P rankings?.. Where is Tito or Butterbean? Where the Hell is Mayorga? This list is insane.
pavlik should be higher than margarito i think,
where is jones jr
Jones Jr?!? :wtf:
He hasn't beaten a top 10 fighter in over four years, and he's been KO'd twice since then.
Also Hopkins being #4 is a joke by the magazines owners. You don't lost three of your last five and stay rated that high in honest ratings.
People take the word of Ring Magazine and other publications because it saves them time from having to make up their own mind. Not everyone is a savvy consumer, like the people here on BoxingScene.
Look at Roy Jones, when he was removed from the P4P list his career went south fast. He's been having trouble landing meaningful fights that can once again elevate him to the status he was once at.
Or the fact..ya know...he was knocked out twice.
Yeah, but anyone can say "Pound for Pound doesn't mean shit." Also Hopkins has plently of levarge already with ya know being the whole ex middleweight champion and ex light heavyweight champion thing.
Also having Hopkins on a pound for pound list isn't that blasphemious. I already explained how he's at 4.
People take the word of Ring Magazine and other publications because it saves them time from having to make up their own mind. Not everyone is a savvy consumer, like the people here on BoxingScene.
Look at Roy Jones, when he was removed from the P4P list his career went south fast. He's been having trouble landing meaningful fights that can once again elevate him to the status he was once at.
Its an unofficial title that gives you greater leverage in landing big fights. As long as he's a P4P fighter, he can't be washed up.
Yeah, but anyone can say "Pound for Pound doesn't mean shit." Also Hopkins has plently of levarge already with ya know being the whole ex middleweight champion and ex light heavyweight champion thing.
Also having Hopkins on a pound for pound list isn't that blasphemious. I already explained how he's at 4.
Also what does Golden Boy have to gain by puting Hopkins at 4? It's really not like pound for pound means anything.
Its an unofficial title that gives you greater leverage in landing big fights. As long as he's a P4P fighter, he can't be washed up.
Why isn't Victor Luis Lozoya ranked higher than Margarito?
Since Marg lost to Williams in a razor thin decision he has put together three impressive stoppage wins against increasingly better opposition including the ranked number one. I would guess that in the opinion of the Ring's staff Margarito has the beating of Williams in a rematch.
Razor thin? Try clear. I won't argue that it was a close fight (I had it 115-113), but he clearly beat him. I mean I see him not being in the pound for pound list because that is subjective opinion, but in the welterweight rankings, Williams deserves to be #1.
So he's a full-time fighter, even though he's been on the semi-retired circuit of fighting once a year in PPV special attraction fights since losing twice to Jermain Taylor?
If I get a part time job at the Gap and I decide I want to work full time. My boss (except Hopkins doesn't need permission) lets me. Am I not a full time worker?
Hopkins is fighting 2 times a year this year. That makes him a full time fighter imo.
What've we got here:
1. Seems to know for a fact all European fighters can pick anyone to fight unlike other entire regions. Wow. Just wow.
2. Uses a prime for prime opinionated hypothetical fight between Hops and Abraham as somehow significantly relevant it Live up to date p4p rankings.
3. Criticises for one for name calling, only to then, name call.
4. Fills us all in on your day to day routine then accuses me of 'filling'.
5. Fails to see the patently obvious tongue in cheek mention or www.wikipedia.org
It's clear why your teachers ran out of space in your report card. There's just too much to work with here. Enjoy the basketball though...
1. Enzo Maccarinelli.
2. I went off topic with the comparison, but the meat of the argument, that Abraham's achievements don't rise to the level of P4P status.
3. You're a girl, stop crying. Don't wet your knickers mate.
4. You're a gimp, I have proof.
5. It must be British humor, like Jeeves or some shit that isn't funny to anyone else.
I watch too much TV, I skateboard too much, I play basketball too much. There is just so much time in the day, I know. I'll mind my schedule and you do the same.
Don't be kind, I have thick skin. Don't hold back because that would detract from any points we may unveil through the process of debate. Wouldn't you agree?
Other than that filler talk, your only point was that I named three fighters who happened to be from Germany, and that Europe does not consist solely of Germany. Still, your point doesn't reach any conclusions and a link to Wikipedia is meaningless since I already have the site bookmarked.
Anything else, wanker boy?
What've we got here:
1. Seems to know for a fact all European fighters can pick anyone to fight unlike other entire regions. Wow. Just wow.
2. Uses a prime for prime opinionated hypothetical fight between Hops and Abraham as somehow significantly relevant it Live up to date p4p rankings.
3. Criticises for one for name calling, only to then, name call.
4. Fills us all in on your day to day routine then accuses me of 'filling'.
5. Fails to see the patently obvious tongue in cheek mention or www.wikipedia.org
It's clear why your teachers ran out of space in your report card. There's just too much to work with here. Enjoy the basketball though...