Cuz I don't see it happening. Even though I'm convinced this fight will have to take place in order to determine a true WW champ, I don't see Williams standing much of a chance. Note: I don't think the decision in their first fight was controversial, PW did enough to win. I just don't see Tony falling for the same trap twice.
Don't get me wrong I'm not biased towards any of these fighters, but the only thing I've seen Williams impose his opponents with is his freakish physical attributes. I don't believe they were much of an advantage even in the first fight. The only thing Williams cleverly did to win the fight was throw in volumes for 12 rounds straight. Tony hurt PW, but was hesistant to push the fight due to PW's punch output.
With revenge on his mind, a big payday, another title and confidence boost from his win last saturday I think Tony will stop him
Hahaha so the official scorecards is what you go by?? Did you actually think Chavez beat Whitaker?? Williams won the first 6 rounds, and the 12th, you didn't give him any betwen 7-11??? Get the fuck outta here.
I scored it 115-113 myself, a win for Williams just like I said when opening this thread.
I just saw the thread 2501 started about you, not very credible are you? Come back when you have an unbiased prediction
Look, I'm not biased towards any of the two fighters here so attacking me only shows your worth. I'm trying to understand WHY people actually think PW can beat Margarito, hell maybe I'll even get persuaded to adopt your prediction. But frankly right now I still ain't and your post isn't helping.
I never said PW was overrated, I just said he hasn't been tested yet, meaning if he were to get tested and pass with flying colors I'd probably be making the same prediction you are, until then stop twisting my words. As for Haye, I just think he's an exciting fighter and I think he's good for boxing, I'm not hyping him up or nothing.
Bringing up Matthysse is possibly the stupidest thing you could've done. A so-called knock out artist who failed to pass his biggest tests in the States. This time I am calling a fighter overrated, so who did he beat again?
The dude that pounded cotto genius!
Williams with his size, work rate and chin, negates much of the advantages Margarito has over opponents.
They could fight 10 times and come out 5-5 each. I notice Williams get knocked on in here a lot and it makes no sense to me. He and Margarito both throw a million punches, both have vulnerabilities, both are tough as nails and both will fight anyone.
I like them both. How someone can be a fan of one of them and not the other puzzles me.
I can't see Margie beating fighters of his size or greater due to the loss of his obvious advantages at ww. PW nulls all the advantages he has except chin but that only means he will use less D and more chin which doesn't win fights! PW by UD!
Williams took his best shots to the head and body and barely blinked. He came out and won the 12th round easy. I just broke it down. Maybe now you will get it.
I've seen the fight and what you're saying is lie to anyone with half their vision.
I think it would've hurt him if he blinked I mean he did get cut :fing02:
Matthysse lost to Williams and Cintron...therefore he obviously isn't a big puncher. And you see my worth?? Williams fought Margarito in his backyard. And beat him easy. He has basically no amateur career, still is green, and Margarito has been fighting pro since what?? 16?? After outboxing him easily, Margarito did what he did to Cotto, started pouring it on trying to impose his will. The difference is Williams fought back, and came out to dominate the 12th cementing his win. I thought he won 9 rounds.
Seriously...what?! Where exactly did I say Williams isn't a big puncher in that post? Are you actually reading what I'm posting, cuz if not please stop replying. Did you see those Williams fights? I've seen people post some very good reasons for Williams to win a rematch, but he did not beat Tony easilly. If he did the scorecards would have had him ahead by a much wider margin instead of 115-113 and 116-112 (twice). Hell, it'd be hard to find someone that scored it the way you did. If you thought he won 9 rounds then I guess I was right about you in my first reply.
It doesn't get anymore dominate then that. Compare that performance vs Quintana to Cotto's performance vs him. Williams will only get better and better.
No top 10 fighter fights his opponents the same way and whether it's Williams blowing him away in 1 round or Cotto beating him up and making him quit on his stool in 5
Styles makes fights. Williams did an excellent job at boxing Margarito from the outside and tying up when Margarito tried to work on the inside, completely nullifying his entire game. Williams could definitely do it again and i woudln't be shocked if he did, but with that said, you case make a case for Margarito being smarter next time by starting faster and throwing more punches.
Cut him?? What?? Margarito has no chance of even dropping Williams...get real
Quintana did cut him, there's no way around that. No chance at all? Don't just make statements, please elaborate
What?? If you want to talk about overrated and beating a bunch of nobodies start with the guy in your av. Margarito never hurt Williams to the body, never once did Williams stop punching and his body language say he was hurt, of course haymakers to the body caused him to hunch, but right away he responded with punches and movement. Cotto looked hurt 100 times vs Margarito and Williams never looked hurt once. Matthysse isn't a big enough puncher for you?? If Cotto took the shots Williams did vs him he would've quit again.
Williams is bigger, faster, a better boxer, has more volume with his punches, more looks and angles to give, just as good a chin, and power is equal in my opinion when Williams sits on his punches. He'll beat Margarito 99.9 times out of 100. What edge does Margarito have?? He is tough and keeps coming, but he's slow and plodding. Williams EASY all day.
Look, I'm not biased towards any of the two fighters here so attacking me only shows your worth. I'm trying to understand WHY people actually think PW can beat Margarito, hell maybe I'll even get persuaded to adopt your prediction. But frankly right now I still ain't and your post isn't helping.
I never said PW was overrated, I just said he hasn't been tested yet, meaning if he were to get tested and pass with flying colors I'd probably be making the same prediction you are, until then stop twisting my words. As for Haye, I just think he's an exciting fighter and I think he's good for boxing, I'm not hyping him up or nothing.
Bringing up Matthysse is possibly the stupidest thing you could've done. A so-called knock out artist who failed to pass his biggest tests in the States. This time I am calling a fighter overrated, so who did he beat again?
Damn i take this and Clottey loses im in the POOR HOUSE!!!
Fuck it.....sig it and we on
I lost 180K on Cotto. If i lose on Zab i will be mad haha.
I'll put it in my Bets thread (Link in my sig)
Cut him?? What?? Margarito has no chance of even dropping Williams...get real
those puppy eyes of him will get cut bad enough like quintana-williams 1st by the tj tornado:boxing: