First off, I would like to congratulate both fighters on a great fight.
From the opening round, I was confident this fight was going to unfold exactly as I expected. Miguel was going to work his four corners defense, and Margarito was going to be massively outclassed and brutalized.
Needless to say, I was right.
However, what I did not expect was for Miguel Cotto to make two fatal mistakes.
1) Neglecting body work.
2) Trying to knock Antonio Margarito out.
I was astonished! Miguel Cotto of all people should know the importance of body work. Infact, the momentum of the fight changed in the middle rounds when Antonio Margarito started to invest in a solid body attack.
By neglecting to invest in a solid attack to the body, Miguel Cotto did not tax Margarito's stamina, and did not limit his punch output in the later rounds.
Boxing 101 tells us that if you are on the ropes and your opponent is throwing punches, you go to the body. It brings down your opponents hands, and stops the barrage. Miguel Cotto instead traded upstairs, which brings us to our next critical error on the part of Miguel Cotto.
Miguel Cotto tried to knock Antonio Margarito out. The one fact that was not disputed in the lead up to this fight was Antonio Margarito's chin. Unloading powerful punches on the chin of Margarito is simply wasting your energy.
This is what Miguel Cotto did. Every punch was thrown with malice and knockout written all over it. Round after round, Miguel Cotto WASTED his energy throwing HARD punches at Margarito's chin.
There IS a reason why classically boxers are not punchers. It is not that they cannot punch, it is that in order to have the energy box and stay away for 12 rounds, you cannot waste your energy trying to knock your opponent out.
Miguel fell into this trap. He tried to knock Margarito out while boxing. The result? Cotto ran out of energy in the later rounds.
I do not fell that Cotto running out of energy had much if anything to do with Margarito's work rate as Cotto appeared relaxed, and expended very little energy defending against the onslaught. He simply punched himself out.
Had Miguel invested his energy in a body attack, I feel the fight would have taken a dramatically different path.
While Margarito won, and I give him all the credit in the world, he showed why he will never be able to beat Paul Williams.
Round after rounds Margarito did the same thing. Round after rounds Cotto brutally beat him. Round after round, Margarito failed to adapt. Against a fighter like Paul Williams who can sustain his work rate for all 12 rounds, Margarito has no answers. He does not adapt, and is inherently unskilled.
With that said. Margarito is one fucking tough son of a bitch. A true WARRIOR. Nobody is going to knock him out, and anyone that tries is going to lose.
In order to beat Margarito, you have to take a page out of the book of Paul Williams. Pity Pat your way to victory.
I think you need to stop riding cotto so hard you might get pregnant....I like how you assume your level of intellect is far greater than mine...Anyways why dont you get off your comp any join your circle jerk with Jim Lampley, and cotto.....Maybe you can give your post fight analysis and come up with a gameplan for the rematch....
Its funny because I was riding Cotto so hard that Asian Sensation accused me of having a grudge against Cotto. It seems like fair and unbiased analysis rubs many people the wrong way.
If you really want to compare intellect I am more than willing to oblige.
Another person that need to brush up on their reading skills.
I think you need to stop riding cotto so hard you might get pregnant....I like how you assume your level of intellect is far greater than mine...Anyways why dont you get off your comp any join your circle jerk with Jim Lampley, and cotto.....Maybe you can give your post fight analysis and come up with a gameplan for the rematch....
I can't believe these so called analysis that Cotto wasn't being hurt by Margarito's body shots, unbelievable. I guess Margarito had no say so as to who was going to dictate the pace of this fight. Cotto had no choice but to try to match Margarito's workrate to get him off. Cotto will not beat Margarito in a rematch because although he can try to improve on his cardio, he won't be able to stop Margarito from walking through him and taking what he wants. This fight broke down Cotto physically, as well as mentally.
Another person that need to brush up on their reading skills.
Your just creating more excuse Bayless? Cotto is a low blow addict. Why didn't he retaliate? Because he was scared he was wincing in the second, those shots were hurting him he was shifting his blocking and circling away from his left hook. Towards what most would say is Margarito's harder punch in the straight right. He was going away from his power punch, bouncing away from his best punch to avoid a body shot it is wide open man. Why didn't he move away from Margarito's right instead which would put him in better location to use his signature left hook?
Margarito went away from body punches for a while because of Bayless as well as because Cotto protecting his body better. Give credit where credit is due. Step back and realize all you seem to be looking for is a reason why Cotto lost(what he or a ref didn't do), not what Margarito did and continued to do.
Margarito did his job, Cotto could not because Margarito executed the exact plan he had formed before entering the ring. Break down the body early, be relentless throw lots of punches and come on late to start busting him up and finishing him off. It was pretty obvious who would win the fight by the sixth, not the boxing match but the fight. Cotto was a great boxer put on an amazing performance but he got his ass kicked.
You seem to be looking for a reason why Cotto did everything right and still lost. That is simply not the case. Cotto made mistakes. Cotto lost because of his mistakes. Deal with it. I know you are desperately trying to convince yourself that there is nothing Cotto could have done to beat Margarito, but that is not true.
This fight was very winnable for Cotto. I know you love Margarito and feel like me saying Cotto made mistakes somehow takes away from the fact that Margarito came out with the win, but it doesn't. It simply means Cotto made mistakes that lost him the fight.
Deal with it.
I can't believe these so called analysis that Cotto wasn't being hurt by Margarito's body shots, unbelievable. I guess Margarito had no say so as to who was going to dictate the pace of this fight. Cotto had no choice but to try to match Margarito's workrate to get him off. Cotto will not beat Margarito in a rematch because although he can try to improve on his cardio, he won't be able to stop Margarito from walking through him and taking what he wants. This fight broke down Cotto physically, as well as mentally.
I agree with every word of this.
How could you agree with a statement that says Cotto lost, Margarito didn't win? Margarito took the fight to Cotto and Cotto lost it? Margarito out right took the fight from Cotto because Cotto couldn't stay away.
I think Margarito really mind fucks people. He is so incredibly easy to hit upstairs that people just get sucked into beating on his face trying to knock him out. I honestly can't remember one fighter that put forth a good body attack against Margo. I fully expected Cotto to do it. I have no idea why he didn't other than what I just mentioned. Margo is so easy to hit upstairs people take it.
If Cotto had expended all the energy on a body attack, I believe we would be singing a different tune right now.
Good job to Margarito for getting the win, but he did not win that fight, Cotto lost it. There was no Margarito breaking Cotto down, or Cotto getting punished.
The whole fight was Cotto outclassing Margarito. Cotto lost that fight. It is 100% his fault. He failed to implement that game plan that was needed to win.
Hopefully Cotto learns a valuable lesson from this fight. It was a learning experience because he didn't take that much punishment, but he learned a valuable lesson about conserving energy, and choosing which punches you need to throw.
I agree with every word of this.
It went exactly how I was worried it would go. Cotto winning early and landing most of the big clean shots, but not being able to hurt Margarito. Then Margarito breaking him down and stopping him late after Cotto broke down from the pressure. I wanted Cotto to win, but Margarito was just the better man. Hell of a fight.
Body shots started to hurt him in the 2nd round. Look at about 1:49 in the first round. He blasted him with a body shot that physically HURT Cotto. I think after that. Cotto said i cant get in the body because i cannot trade with him like that.
Tony did the smart thing early in the fight he went for the body even if it meant him getting hit in the face. Margarito knew what he was doing the whole fight. IT was all a matter of if Cotto can take it and be effective in the later rounds. He couldn't. Cotto didn't go to the body because he COULDN'T.
Strong chin, will and better conditioning won this fight for Margarito. Cotto is an excellent boxer, he fought to the best of his abilties, it just was not enough.
Margarito's body shots were indeed good, but had little effect in the early rounds. If you watch Cotto's previous fights against come forward fighters, his movement pattern is the same.
He uses what I call his 4 corners defense every time. He goes to the middle of the ropes, covers up, blocks a few punches, throws a flurry and skips out to the left in a southpaw stance over to the middle of the next rope and repeats.
Margarito's body work really started to work in the 7th rounds. That is when he started throwing lefts to the body. That was the first time I really saw a wince from Cotto. That is also when Margarito really started having success.
After watching the fight again, I would also like to say that Kenny Bayless should be ashamed with his performance.
The amount of low blows Margarito was allowed to land without warning appalling. He warned Margarito 3 times and then just gave up.
I counted at least 7 uppercuts below the belt line that landed hard on the groin of Cotto, and countless more low blows to the hips.
Your just creating more excuse Bayless? Cotto is a low blow addict. Why didn't he retaliate? Because he was scared he was wincing in the second, those shots were hurting him he was shifting his blocking and circling away from his left hook. Towards what most would say is Margarito's harder punch in the straight right. He was going away from his power punch, bouncing away from his best punch to avoid a body shot it is wide open man. Why didn't he move away from Margarito's right instead which would put him in better location to use his signature left hook?
Margarito went away from body punches for a while because of Bayless as well as because Cotto protecting his body better. Give credit where credit is due. Step back and realize all you seem to be looking for is a reason why Cotto lost(what he or a ref didn't do), not what Margarito did and continued to do.
Margarito did his job, Cotto could not because Margarito executed the exact plan he had formed before entering the ring. Break down the body early, be relentless throw lots of punches and come on late to start busting him up and finishing him off. It was pretty obvious who would win the fight by the sixth, not the boxing match but the fight. Cotto was a great boxer put on an amazing performance but he got his ass kicked.
I guess that is why even Steward said that Margarito's defense early on was better then he expected. So by your wording the fight changed in the first round when Cotto started absorbing body shots? It did, when Margarito landed that left uppercut to the body Cotto started lateral movement more often. Cotto did land a lot of amazing punches put on the best performance I have seen from him yet, and he got his ass kicked plain and simple
Again the analysis is Margarito beat Cotto's ass because he dished out a beating he could take but not vice versa. This is reminiscent of Chavez-Taylor, Cotto looked great landing the cleaner looking punches, but he couldn't stop the hard chinned monster from getting to him and eventually he caught up with him and broke is will.
Margarito started early took what he needed to and fought the fight he chose not vice versa. Cotto landed some narley power punches, the analysis is he couldn't do it. Cotto couldn't do it if it happened again because he couldn't keep this monster we call Margarito off of him I couldn't imagine it would change because Margarito will do the same thing. He will dig to the body and later in the fight it will slow Cotto down again and Margarito will take over.
Margarito's body shots were indeed good, but had little effect in the early rounds. If you watch Cotto's previous fights against come forward fighters, his movement pattern is the same.
He uses what I call his 4 corners defense every time. He goes to the middle of the ropes, covers up, blocks a few punches, throws a flurry and skips out to the left in a southpaw stance over to the middle of the next rope and repeats.
Margarito's body work really started to work in the 7th rounds. That is when he started throwing lefts to the body. That was the first time I really saw a wince from Cotto. That is also when Margarito really started having success.
After watching the fight again, I would also like to say that Kenny Bayless should be ashamed with his performance.
The amount of low blows Margarito was allowed to land without warning appalling. He warned Margarito 3 times and then just gave up.
I counted at least 7 uppercuts below the belt line that landed hard on the groin of Cotto, and countless more low blows to the hips.
Trying to argue that Margarito's defense if good is an argument you cannot win.
Where did I say it was good? I said it was better than Cotto expected as well as the rest of us. Early in the fight most of the punches landed were not that clean. Cotto was taking a lot of punches to the body in the first 2 rounds I counted 30 body shots thrown(after re watching the beginning), not all of them were clean, however it was obvious they were stinging.
Cotto didn't want to stay inside and trade body shots because he wasn't confident he was getting the better end. Which as incredibly obvious at the end of the second round. When Margarito's beating to the body took effect, some stuff off was lost from Cotto's punches and speed. Toward the end Margarito felt undeterred by his weakening punches.
Cotto didn't want trade to the body he tried in the second, he went back to boxing because he couldn't hang in there long enough to break him down without getting hurt(see 2nd round, 3rd round Cotto had his bell rung as well).
Go rewatch the first few rounds, Cotto moves everytime Margarito lands a body shot, he was wincing from the shots. Cotto didn't fire back after body shots, why do you think he would not retaliate instead he just moved completely? He did a lot stick and moves which is not to be confused with the body shots that he took and had to move away from.
I guess that is why even Steward said that Margarito's defense early on was better then he expected. So by your wording the fight changed in the first round when Cotto started absorbing body shots? It did, when Margarito landed that left uppercut to the body Cotto started lateral movement more often. Cotto did land a lot of amazing punches put on the best performance I have seen from him yet, and he got his ass kicked plain and simple
Again the analysis is Margarito beat Cotto's ass because he dished out a beating he could take but not vice versa. This is reminiscent of Chavez-Taylor, Cotto looked great landing the cleaner looking punches, but he couldn't stop the hard chinned monster from getting to him and eventually he caught up with him and broke is will.
Margarito started early took what he needed to and fought the fight he chose not vice versa. Cotto landed some narley power punches, the analysis is he couldn't do it. Cotto couldn't do it if it happened again because he couldn't keep this monster we call Margarito off of him I couldn't imagine it would change because Margarito will do the same thing. He will dig to the body and later in the fight it will slow Cotto down again and Margarito will take over.
Trying to argue that Margarito's defense if good is an argument you cannot win.
I stated that the turning point of the fight was Margarito's body attack, please learn to read. How you equate "watch for elbows" with Margarito is blocking body shots is beyond me. "Watch for elbows" mean... watch for elbows... Surprisingly, Cotto's people didn't want Cotto getting cut by an elbow.
When Cotto did throw to the body he landed. The problem is, he didn't throw to the body enough. Margarito showed absolutely ZERO defense. Any punches blocked were borderline accidental.
I guess that is why even Steward said that Margarito's defense early on was better then he expected. So by your wording the fight changed in the first round when Cotto started absorbing body shots? It did, when Margarito landed that left uppercut to the body Cotto started lateral movement more often. Cotto did land a lot of amazing punches put on the best performance I have seen from him yet, and he got his ass kicked plain and simple
Again the analysis is Margarito beat Cotto's ass because he dished out a beating he could take but not vice versa. This is reminiscent of Chavez-Taylor, Cotto looked great landing the cleaner looking punches, but he couldn't stop the hard chinned monster from getting to him and eventually he caught up with him and broke is will.
Margarito started early took what he needed to and fought the fight he chose not vice versa. Cotto landed some narley power punches, the analysis is he couldn't do it. Cotto couldn't do it if it happened again because he couldn't keep this monster we call Margarito off of him I couldn't imagine it would change because Margarito will do the same thing. He will dig to the body and later in the fight it will slow Cotto down again and Margarito will take over.
No analyzing a fight is not only mentioning what one fighter did wrong and what the other fighter could have done is an analysis. You straight up made excuses, plain and simple. You didn't mention how Margarito used a body attack early on. You didn't mention how Margarito blocked his body very well knowing his chin would hold up, Cotto tried for the body there wasn't much there, Margarito blocked a fair amount to the body with his arms. Even Cotto's corner said watch for elbows in the third or so. Margarito beat the will out of Cotto get used to it. You gave no reasons why Margarito said he would lose the early rounds to the more talented Cotto, and would come on late becaue of his early body attack.
You didn't do a full analysis because you don't mention how Margarito disallowed him doing it with sustained body attack that eventually led to Cotto running like Camacho. You just made excuses plain and simple. An analysis shows both sides.
I stated that the turning point of the fight was Margarito's body attack, please learn to read. How you equate "watch for elbows" with Margarito is blocking body shots is beyond me. "Watch for elbows" mean... watch for elbows... Surprisingly, Cotto's people didn't want Cotto getting cut by an elbow.
When Cotto did throw to the body he landed. The problem is, he didn't throw to the body enough. Margarito showed absolutely ZERO defense. Any punches blocked were borderline accidental.
I understand that you are not to bright, so let me provide you with some basic education.
Analyzing a fight and pointing out what Cotto did wrong is not making excuses.
Superficial facial injuries are NOT indicative of taking a large amount of punishment. It takes ONE punch to cause a cut. ONE punch to break a nose. ONE punch to bloody a lip.
No analyzing a fight is not only mentioning what one fighter did wrong and what the other fighter could have done is an analysis. You straight up made excuses, plain and simple. You didn't mention how Margarito used a body attack early on. You didn't mention how Margarito blocked his body very well knowing his chin would hold up, Cotto tried for the body there wasn't much there, Margarito blocked a fair amount to the body with his arms. Even Cotto's corner said watch for elbows in the third or so. Margarito beat the will out of Cotto get used to it. You gave no reasons why Margarito said he would lose the early rounds to the more talented Cotto, and would come on late becaue of his early body attack.
You didn't do a full analysis because you don't mention how Margarito disallowed him doing it with sustained body attack that eventually led to Cotto running like Camacho. You just made excuses plain and simple. An analysis shows both sides.
Why is everyone making excuses for cotto?????He lost got TKO'd.....Then for the cotto nuthuggers to say he was brutally beating down margarito...Did you see cottos face and all the blood he spit out at the end... He was eat uppercuts like buffet. I think he took three in row damn..When have you ever seen cottos face like that??? Point Blank He FUCKING LOST thats it coulda should woulda boo hoo.....It was a war.....Margarito won..I think yall are in denial because yall talked so much shit about Marg aint worth a fuck this and that and now cottos record has a loss...Your eating your words and still cant realize how much cotto was hyped by arum and nuthuggers....You should give credit where credit is due..Cottos knows what it takes to win..He didnt execute because he couldnt...That bum you call marg made sure of that....Im not a marg nuthugger but damn I get tired of reading all the denial threads.....COTTO LOST gather your pride and wait for the next fight.....
I understand that you are not to bright, so let me provide you with some basic education.
Analyzing a fight and pointing out what Cotto did wrong is not making excuses.
Superficial facial injuries are NOT indicative of taking a large amount of punishment. It takes ONE punch to cause a cut. ONE punch to break a nose. ONE punch to bloody a lip.
Why is everyone making excuses for cotto?????He lost got TKO'd.....Then for the cotto nuthuggers to say he was brutally beating down margarito...Did you see cottos face and all the blood he spit out at the end... He was eat uppercuts like buffet. I think he took three in row damn..When have you ever seen cottos face like that??? Point Blank He FUCKING LOST thats it coulda should woulda boo hoo.....It was a war.....Margarito won..I think yall are in denial because yall talked so much shit about Marg aint worth a fuck this and that and now cottos record has a loss...Your eating your words and still cant realize how much cotto was hyped by arum and nuthuggers....You should give credit where credit is due..Cottos knows what it takes to win..He didnt execute because he couldnt...That bum you call marg made sure of that....Im not a marg nuthugger but damn I get tired of reading all the denial threads.....COTTO LOST gather your pride and wait for the next fight.....
Yeah Gatti was a bigger puncher with 1 punch.
Oh yeah, sure I mean Gatti was an exciting legend type guy and some of his bouts were memorable, but look at class here man.
Tony just lived Gatti's career times 1 million tonight. Gatti's biggest win (I'd say probably over Leija) doesn't compare to this shit.
And it was tough, yet routine for Margarito.
He showed how good he is as a fighter to the people who didn't know. Now they know, no more secrets.
Just and FYI, Gatti had a sibilance of skill. Margarito does not.