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Well how does he still rank? Can he beat any of them.
Pavlik would KO Hopkins.
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He will have lots of trouble with Hopkins but his workrate will most likely get him through the fight, a younger hopkins would beat him.
Against Calzaghe he gets outboxed and loses a decision, Pavlik always comes foward and i just see him walking into counter shots. Calzaghe's superior speed and footwork will also help him win.
Against abraham pavliks higher workrate and more effective punches win him a decision.
A dawson fight would be at 175 where pavliks power, etc would be dimished and if dawson can avoid and handle his punches he beats pavlik.
Dawson looked lost at times against old man Johnson. Someone who is as young as Dawson should not be struggling against an old man. I would still pick Dawson against Pavlik though. Maybe by a mid to late KO.
Calzaghe has a good chin and Pavlik would not be able to seriously hurt him. Calzaghe would walk through the best punches Pavlik has to offer and use his superior boxing skills and movement to win by a UD.
Hopkins has all the tools to beat Pavlik. As we all know from the Calzaghe fight, Hopkins was rarely hit with any meaningful shots and made life hard for Calzaghe. If a boxer with the ability and range of punches Calzaghe has can't get through and land on the elusive Hopkins, I don't see how the predictable left, left, right of Pavlik will. To be honest, Pavlik will still win this fight with his workrate alone. I call a close decision for Pavlik.
Pavlik would beat Abraham.
Hopkins: Yes, but I think it'll be in a similar vein to the way Calzaghe beat him, unless Pavlik lands a bomb on Hopkins in the later rounds.
Calzaghe: No, he loses a one-sided decision. Pavlik's style is tailor-made for Calzaghe; a come-forward fighter who punches straight without much handspeed. I give him the chance of every puncher, but not much more unless Calzaghe gets old overnight.
Abraham: 60/40 in Pavlik's favour. By no means an easy fight, but one he should win. Tough fight though and one I can see Abraham winning still.
Dawson: No, he loses a fairly comfortable decision. I feel Dawson is too slick and Pavlik is too one dimensional. I'm not sold on Dawson's chin though, so maybe Kelly stops him late.
I love Pavlik's fighting style, but to be brutally honest, it isn't a style that will beat too many elite fighters. He needs to learn to adapt.
I'm still amused by the thread title, listing 4 opponents then saying can Pavlik get past all 3. Had to say it. I'll leave Dawson out as he's an unlikely opponent in the nearby future certainly.
If Pavlik beats Hopkins, Abraham and Calzaghe he deserves mad mad props. I just don't think he will.
He Could Beat Hopkins On Workrate... (simply Because Popkins Will Be 44)
Pavlik Probably Beats Him
I Suspect He Beats Abraham... (beating Miranda Does Not Make You Invincible)
Pavlik Probably Beats Him
Calzaghe Is Ofetn Overrated But He Does Have A Good Chin And Pavlik Is The Type Of Fighter Joe Would Be Comfortable With. Pavlik Won't Win A Decision Over Joe...
Joe Probably Beats Him
I Don't Understand Why People Think Pavlik Can Beat Dawson... Dawson Atleast Matches Him For Power At 175 - Alot Of Pavlik's Dominance Is Due To The Size And Strength Advantage He Has At 160.. At 175 He's Not Gonna Overwhelm Dawson Who Is Somebody That Just Fought Glen Johnson. Dawson Has Longer Reach, An Inch Taller And Better Boxing Skills He's Faster Better Variation Of Punches Etc.. The Only Flaw Is His Suspect Chin. But Pavilk Has Been Down Himself. Its Seems Wierd To Assume That A LIMITED Power Puncher At 160 Moves Up To 175 And Beats A Much More Well Rounded Fighter
Dawson Most Likely Beats Him
Dawson is an underated fighter, I agree!!!
He Could Beat Hopkins On Workrate... (simply Because Popkins Will Be 44)
Pavlik Probably Beats Him
I Suspect He Beats Abraham... (beating Miranda Does Not Make You Invincible)
Pavlik Probably Beats Him
Calzaghe Is Ofetn Overrated But He Does Have A Good Chin And Pavlik Is The Type Of Fighter Joe Would Be Comfortable With. Pavlik Won't Win A Decision Over Joe...
Joe Probably Beats Him
I Don't Understand Why People Think Pavlik Can Beat Dawson... Dawson Atleast Matches Him For Power At 175 - Alot Of Pavlik's Dominance Is Due To The Size And Strength Advantage He Has At 160.. At 175 He's Not Gonna Overwhelm Dawson Who Is Somebody That Just Fought Glen Johnson. Dawson Has Longer Reach, An Inch Taller And Better Boxing Skills He's Faster Better Variation Of Punches Etc.. The Only Flaw Is His Suspect Chin. But Pavilk Has Been Down Himself. Its Seems Wierd To Assume That A LIMITED Power Puncher At 160 Moves Up To 175 And Beats A Much More Well Rounded Fighter
Dawson Most Likely Beats Him
Pavlik-Dawson is actually a pretty cool concept, I'm not sure who'd win that since Pavlik is a big middleweight and Dawson is a small light heavyweight.
Pavlik can decision Hopkins easy even if the fight is ugly.
I think Pavik would KO Calzaghe.
Pavlik-Abraham would be the best fight of the four but I'd see a Pavlik KO victory
Pavlik-Dawson is an interesting matchup as well and could go either way like Pavlik-AA but I like a Pavlik decision
Interesting breakdown
Pavlik-Dawson is actually a pretty cool concept, I'm not sure who'd win that since Pavlik is a big middleweight and Dawson is a small light heavyweight.
Pavlik can decision Hopkins easy even if the fight is ugly.
I think Pavik would KO Calzaghe.
Pavlik-Abraham would be the best fight of the four but I'd see a Pavlik KO victory
Pavlik-Dawson is an interesting matchup as well and could go either way like Pavlik-AA but I like a Pavlik decision
Wait....About 3-4-5 years from now, we will look back and see a Kelly Pavlik who has lost 3-4 fights....Skill wise, he is not that far along, and I think that he's reached his peak as far as his ability to box....He has one of the most powerful and best 1'2's in the game, but if it wasn't for his KO power, he'd be in trouble against any fighter from 160-175....His power is what makes him a good fighter, but thats all he will ever be is a good fighter who will always be in there with good opposition, because of his one punch KO power......
I think that Kelly is not real fast or slick but he is a world champion of 34-0 with 30 KOs for a reason. He has a KO over Taylor who has been in with some hitters for a reason. He is a bit slicker then people give him credit for, watch some of the little things he does, moves his right up to block the jab. His head movement is solid it enough that a lot of punches shave his face. He does a lot of little things that aren't flashy but more efficient then you realize.
Now there have been a lot of champions who have had power but no real flash, Tszyu and Chavez two greats come to mind. Neither looked special but they both just hit fucking hard. In fact in some aspects Pavlik is very similar to Tszyu, not real flashy, a stalker, one-two is his winning combo, the ability to KO a fighter with one punch. Pavlik beat a more "talented" fighter in Taylor(similar to Tszyu over Judah). Basically solid boxing ability with nasty power.
Pavlik doesn't look amazing but he is sharper then a lot of people give him credit for, he always adjust breaks down his opponents with body and head shots. He is very accurate, and has a workman rate. His jab is commanding and over powering due to his consistency, you don't want to get hit by it. His jab does take over fights and it does set him up for everything.
Pavlik's Chin:
Everyone acts like Taylor punches soft, Taylor hits hard, his KO record isn't high because he has fought a high level of competition since he was young. Hopkins, Wright, Joppy, Ouma, Spinks all were champions, plus he fought lots of contenders. Taylor also seems to favor flash to power. When he sits on his punches he has solid power. That was the only time you have ever seen him really in trouble and he knocked his ass out.
Now I am not saying he will beat any of them but he can beat all of them. He fucking hits hard, his systematic break down has worked in every case so far for a reason. Again he can beat them although the odds may be against him.
I think he beats Hopkins and also Abraham if he avoids getting KTFO.
I can imagine Calzaghe mugging Pavlik all night long, getting inside his reach, turning him and doing pretty much as he pleases. Any opponent that walks onto Calzaghe is going to lose unless they can actually get him out of there. In short it would be like the Kessler fight without the first four rounds.
Dawson would look like god himself against Pavlik.
LOL Dawson is GOD...lol