Toney vs. Rahman II. Youtube. Butt deliberate?

It was unintentional, Rahman moved in and Toney was trying to get back into position after slipping a punch and their heads collided.

butt was not deliberate. rahman is deliberately an ass though.

I hope he does get a title shot. I wanna see fat boy get his ass knocked out. And rest assured any of the top heavies will put fat boy to sleep. and how many guys have put fat boy to sleep in his career? so toney is gonna get koed? who else is gonna get koed tua and mccall?

Toney's got no chance against Wlad. Wlad would kill him with the jab and knock him out inside 6 rounds IMO. i'd have to agree. wlad's only weakness is his chin and stamina. you need a fighter that can test one or both. toney doesn't have the power to ko wlad nor does he have the workrate to tire wlad.

Toney is so fat ! He looks so ugly ! He doesnt look like a boxer. I saw the entire little Youtube movie. It looks like a deliberate butt to me. He moves his head in the direction of the other fighter, so it then looks deliberate. Are people saying that Toney can beat Vladimir from the performance in this fight ? Toney didnt fight at all, he just hit his head on his opponents head.

bullsht decision

I hope he does get a title shot. I wanna see fat boy get his ass knocked out. And rest assured any of the top heavies will put fat boy to sleep.

butt not deliberate rahman is terrible the jackass commentator who said that Rahman had "the best tools in the heavyweight division by far" should be fired

I'll admit, he flashed some good things. But I'm not sold on him beating " that bum Wlad or his sister Vitali. "

don't forget we're talking about James toney here ... he might look like a bum - lol - but he ain't, its James Toney ... the guy that knocked out evander holyfield. only riddick bowe and him have ever stopped holyfield ... don't underestimate the guy ....what has haye done at heavyweight? toney has faced many top contenders and former champions AT HEAVYWEIGHT ... haye has done nothing .... lets see haye fight ANYONE at heavyweight before listening to anything he saysas for Wlad beating him ,yeah thats possible but I doubt Wlad can handle Toneys skills ... once Wlad finds his shots are missing what is he gonna do ? the guys that knocked out wlad couldn't carry toneys jockstrap ... :bottle::bottle: Toney has no business vs. prime heavies.

if toney keeps fighting like he did he can become champion. what convinced 'the rock' to quit ? - toneys handspeed. this is the best toney has looked at heavyweight. toney was ripping him to the body. rahman had no answer to the handspeed, and with the small cut he got scared. toney even landed a shot that had rahman lose his legs for a moment. this is the way toney should fight at heavyweight as he has said he would. not come in too heavy, use the edge in handspeed. speed kills you know ? lol manny steward can have a gameplan for wlad but once toney takes him to deep water manny can't do anything, toney's bag of tricks is too big. wlad can't think in the ring, that will be his downfall ... the only way toney loses is if he comes in out of shape (he beats himself) toney vs haye ? - that would be a fifth round knockout by toney. toney was a great fighter before he even went to heavyweight and at heavyweight he has faced old champions (holyfield), rahman as well as modern day ones (sam peter) ... he deserves a shot before haye. someone said the wlad vs haye thing was staged, quite possibly since wlad is now showing signs he wants to face haye ... maybe Toney should go after Haye to close all doors for the Klitschkos to face anyone else. Haye is way too wild for a Toney. why didn't rahman throw any bombs at toney like he did with other fighters he's faced because he knew that toney would checkmate him You were that impressed by Toney? Why, because he won one or two rounds and butted his opponent's head open? Haye would beat him and Wladimir would obliterate him. The Rahman fight proved nothing.

if toney keeps fighting like he did he can become champion. what convinced 'the rock' to quit ? - toneys handspeed. this is the best toney has looked at heavyweight. toney was ripping him to the body. rahman had no answer to the handspeed, and with the small cut he got scared. toney even landed a shot that had rahman lose his legs for a moment. this is the way toney should fight at heavyweight as he has said he would. not come in too heavy, use the edge in handspeed. speed kills you know ? lol manny steward can have a gameplan for wlad but once toney takes him to deep water manny can't do anything, toney's bag of tricks is too big. wlad can't think in the ring, that will be his downfall ... the only way toney loses is if he comes in out of shape (he beats himself) toney vs haye ? - that would be a fifth round knockout by toney. toney was a great fighter before he even went to heavyweight and at heavyweight he has faced old champions (holyfield), rahman as well as modern day ones (sam peter) ... he deserves a shot before haye. someone said the wlad vs haye thing was staged, quite possibly since wlad is now showing signs he wants to face haye ... maybe Toney should go after Haye to close all doors for the Klitschkos to face anyone else. Haye is way too wild for a Toney. why didn't rahman throw any bombs at toney like he did with other fighters he's faced because he knew that toney would checkmate him Toney's got no chance against Wlad. Wlad would kill him with the jab and knock him out inside 6 rounds IMO.

The only interesting fight at heavy right now is Haye-Toney. That would be an interesting matchup.

If you thought that butt was deliberate, you're blind. You could make a case for it being deliberate. Toney raises his head full speed with the side towards Rahman. Toney is a smart fighter so he must at least have known that there would be a good chance of his head hitting Rahman.

I'm glad we've got youtube. For those of us who hasn't seen the controversial ending of Toney vs. Rahman II it's here: Here's the post fight analysis including "Dr." Chris Byrd and a James Toney who definetely slurs: I thought the butt looked a bit deliberate. As for Rahman claiming he couldn't see well when Brian Nielsen fought Mike Tyson, Nielsen claimed he had double vision and I believe him for sure. He was tough. So it's a definete possibility that Rahman couldn't see. For me Rahman deserves another fight with Toney. If you thought that butt was deliberate, you're blind.