Why all the fuss Chavez JR did not lose the fight IMO ,i thought he won the fight but regardless of that he definetly won 5 rounds without a shadow of a doubt ,yes Matt Vanda did well in the late rounds but he did not win the fight cause Chavez won 5 rounds easy like i said
BTW i thought Chavez looked ill from round 8 on he was really struggling IMO a blind man could see he was not himself he was so down beat in the corner inbetween rounds ,breathing heavy, and he looked distressed
PS Mexican fans should be ashamed of themselves :wave:
Well JCC jnr gets hyped as well and he is a millionaire also but he hasnt achieve anything, At least Amir Khan can say he won a silver medal. You dont understand why JCC jnr gets sticks but you understand WHY Khan does? Thats strange.
Chavez jr does'nt get hyped at all like Khan and who says he is a millionaire how do u know he is a millionaire ?
Khan is a glass jawed hype job and he will be gone as soon he steps up
It is a very big deal because it is easily apparent that Chavez Jr. doesn't have a fighter's mentality.
I don't buy that he was sick. Chavez Jr shows no regard for discipline. He is a big guy but not i cant make the weight big. He should be coming in at the correct weight everytime. He already went from 135 to 154 and he still wont make weight thats downright ridiculous.
As one of his original supporter it is sad to say but Chavez Jr. doesn't have it upstairs.
Agreed with the highlighted part there, Some guy that trains with him told me he doesnt like to train but loves the attention. He has been helped along because he doesnt really have any amateur career and also because of his dads name but there would be a certain point where are the help he gets cannot take him any further.
He need to want it himself and if he isnt commited then he better off quitting.
thats fair enough then i supose
i dont why this kid gets so much stick from fans TBH the guy had 4 amateur fights if he want to pad his record to get some experience than so what its not like people are claiming he is the next Barrera ,Morales
i mean Amir Khan deserves dissing cause he fights no hopes and he is hyped all beyond all recognition and he is a Millionaire already and he did not even win the gold medal lol
Well JCC jnr gets hyped as well and he is a millionaire also but he hasnt achieve anything, At least Amir Khan can say he won a silver medal. You dont understand why JCC jnr gets sticks but you understand WHY Khan does? Thats strange.
It is a very big deal because it is easily apparent that Chavez Jr. doesn't have a fighter's mentality.
I don't buy that he was sick. Chavez Jr shows no regard for discipline. He is a big guy but not i cant make the weight big. He should be coming in at the correct weight everytime. He already went from 135 to 154 and he still wont make weight thats downright ridiculous.
As one of his original supporter it is sad to say but Chavez Jr. doesn't have it upstairs.
I don't think he lost.The fans were angry at the juges.Espeacially one who had it 100-90!
thats fair enough then i supose
i dont why this kid gets so much stick from fans TBH the guy had 4 amateur fights if he want to pad his record to get some experience than so what its not like people are claiming he is the next Barrera ,Morales
i mean Amir Khan deserves dissing cause he fights no hopes and he is hyped all beyond all recognition and he is a Millionaire already and he did not even win the gold medal lol
I thought it was close. First half for Jr. second half for Vanda. What pissed me off was the 100-90 score. That score spells bullshit and I hate it when a fight gets overshadowed by it. As for Jr. as much as I want him to be a major force, I just don't see it happening. He needs to box instead of trying to fight like his father.
definetly i think his height is a disadvantage with that kinda style, a shorter fighter is harder to hit majority of the time and if u are tall and u wanna fight inside u are putting yourself in arms way IMO
i still was not a win for Vanda as far as im concerned ,close yes but Chavez did not lose the fight
I thought it was close. First half for Jr. second half for Vanda. What pissed me off was the 100-90 score. That score spells bullshit and I hate it when a fight gets overshadowed by it. As for Jr. as much as I want him to be a major force, I just don't see it happening. He needs to box instead of trying to fight like his father.
well why did it appear that even chavez felt he lost? There was no confidence what so ever.
true Champions always have that look on their face when they perform below their standards see Roys face after Tarver 1 there are plenty of examples of dejected fighters after a fight but it dont mean they lost the fight its mean they are disapointed in their performance
Jones-Tarver is different and wasn't a robbery since Roy was the one landing clean punches and partially blocking Tarver's attacks, this wasn't the case for the Julio-Vanda fight.
Chavez caught a lot of shots agreed but he still did not lose the fight the difference between that fight and this fight aswell is that Chavez was getting through he was doubling Julio-Vanda over with left hooks to the body and he outworked him clearly in the first 5 rounds IMO, but he got hit a lot and Julio-Vanda finished very strongly he still did not win more rounds than Chavez though
exactly the only people who dont know how to score fights are the fighters themselves they always think their 10 rounds infront and the fools actually watching it at the venue
this reminded me of Tarver v Jones 1 ,anyone with a brain could see Jones won by 2/3 rounds yet the crowd thought it was a robbery lolJones-Tarver is different and wasn't a robbery since Roy was the one landing clean punches and partially blocking Tarver's attacks, this wasn't the case for the Julio-Vanda fight.
no respectable boxing writer would give this fight to vanda
even the idiots at youtube are saying chavez won
well why did it appear that even chavez felt he lost? There was no confidence what so ever.
no respectable boxing writer would give this fight to vanda
even the idiots at youtube are saying chavez won
exactly the only people who dont know how to score fights are the fighters themselves they always think their 10 rounds infront and the fools actually watching it at the venue
this reminded me of Tarver v Jones 1 ,anyone with a brain could see Jones won by 2/3 rounds yet the crowd thought it was a robbery lol
no respectable boxing writer would give this fight to vanda
even the idiots at youtube are saying chavez wonAnd you're so smart that you think the bottles that were flying after the fight was aimed at Vanda and his team.
i did not know that raycorey did'nt Chavez Snr say he was sick i could of sworn i heard him say that but i could be wrong
Marquez v Pacman 2 was much closer than this fight mateI beg to disagree! The white guy was the one landing the cleaner shots from beginning to end. Julio-Vanda fight was a poor man's Winky-Trinidad. Julio was hitting Vanda's arms while Vanda was too busy hitting his face. This aint a close fight but the rounds are that should've given to Vanda cos he was the one landing the cleaner punches.
From what i heard(from someone that trained with him in the same gym) he didnt train properly for this fight, He was seen in night clubs days before this fight.
The guy said he basically came to the gym but didnt do NO training he just sat around and did nothing.
Are these the same people who said Pacquiao robbed Marquez twice? LOL! The double standard unbelievable! Pathetic!
i did not know that raycorey did'nt Chavez Snr say he was sick i could of sworn i heard him say that but i could be wrong
Marquez v Pacman 2 was much closer than this fight mate
From what i heard(from someone that trained with him in the same gym) he didnt train properly for this fight, He was seen in night clubs days before this fight.
The guy said he basically came to the gym but didnt do NO training he just sat around and did nothing.