This is a very possible matchup in the HW decision, I dont see there being a 3rd Toney-Rahman fight, and Wlad is all types of wrong for James (although I think Toney wants to fight him). I think its a good interesting matchup.
As of right now...I would have to go with Haye by UD or SD...Toney is damn near shot and he is looking very slow IMO...His fight with Rahman last night showed how he is slowing down... Haye is still young and has some decent power and will out work Toney...I just dont see Haye KO Toney..Toney might be old but he still make fighters miss with his defense.
Toney, granite chin and all, would get stopped. Probably a TKO after taking shit load of punishment. What's the cliche "speed kills", Toney fights in slow mo these days.
i think haye may pick toney to be his next opponent because he's a big name but not a big puncher. tbh im not sure who would win this. i like both fighters. toney still has the skills to trouble haye. haye is much quicker than all the HW's toney has faced and so he will get through a lot more.
Haye was supposed to fight Rahman if he beat Toney, so maybe now Haye-Toney will happen instead. I would like to know who Wlad Owns would pick to win, considering how much he seems to hate both of them.
Eh? What trouble did Haye have against Fragomeni? Haye dominated and then stopped him.
And Mormeck isn't shot either...
did you even watch the fight?
fragomeni is the fat old italian that managed to push haye against the ropes and punish him with right hands! if fragomani had power he would have ko'd
haye!!
the fat italian also cut him with a punch, which made haye feel sorry for himself!
fatso is also the only person who has exposed hayes reaction speed!!!
haye likes to keep his left hand low, but its not like hes got any defense
or anything. You can pick of haye with right hands all night long! cos he's to dumb to pick his left hand up!
mormeck's not shot?????????
what planet are you living on???
Only seen Haye fight once. Toney could be Haye and the quality of the fight would depend on which James Toney showed up.
I missed the fight last night. I know it only went 3 rounds can someone tell how the fighter were looking?
This is a very possible matchup in the HW decision, I dont see there being a 3rd Toney-Rahman fight, and Wlad is all types of wrong for James (although I think Toney wants to fight him). I think its a good interesting matchup.
im a huge toney fan, but haye would beat toney convincingly...
Toney has a better chin, more stamina, and better skills than Haye, even at age 40. Haye has been stopped by a 40 year old before (Thompson).
Toney by middle round KO or TKO after Haye gasses.
LOL
from the same asshole that said Rahman KO's Toney???
Fucking incredible...
On a side note, Toneys legs are shot, not that he was a dancer before but his slips and leans are so much slower than they used to be. The version of Toney that beat Jirov would beat Haye but not 40 year old Toney...
Toney would KO Haye. Haye would tire himself out trying to KO Toney and would end up getting massacred in the 5th or 6th round.
you say that in jest , right?
when was the last time toney koed a heavyweight?
you're from hertfordshire for god's sake.
This will be a good match up. I would want to see how toney would react to david's heavy punches. Will toney, despite his age, be still slick enough to beat a young fighter like haye?
James Toney is still a big name. It's a good move for Haye who might want to get some exposure and also test the waters before going up against the bigger hitting HW's.
have to agree though i'm a big toney fan as well.
his skills get him by but he has to fight in spurts.
i doubt he can ko haye and haye is young and strong.
toney does better against old guys who can't fight a full round or younger guys that are slow.
that's why i'd like to see toney-tua. they'd take turns and each have their moments against each other but against young guys that are busy , tua and toney would have their problems. though tua's power might let him get "lucky" against haye i doubt toney has the power to ko haye wth a single punch.
and how come there's no poll?
haye can be put down by super middleweight bums!
haye has been stopped by a 40 year old washed up carl thompson!
haye was in trouble against a shot mormeck (who himself started at light heavy)
haye has shown he has trouble against short stocky fighters (fragomeni and mormeck)
so i pick toney by stoppage