Accidental headbutt = no decision. That is some bullshit. I wanted it to continue as much as anybody and I preferred Toney to win, but that is flat out wrong
That was a much worse cut in my opinion. And Toney went out and KOed him in the next round. I think Rahman couldve given it a round or two. The bleeding seem to have stopped.
Not to mention, Rahman seemed to know he had won the first two rounds, and if it goes to the cards after 5 he'd only have to win 1 of the next 3 to get the W if it were stopped at that point. He still didn't want to chance it.
point is he could see, no he couldnt when blood was streaming into it.
but as he sat there on his stool with the blood stopped he was still insisting he could not see out of the eye due to blurred vision.... he could see fine.
there are plenty of examples of guys fighting on with worse cuts.
id like to see the cut toney said he sustained against tim littles that he fought through.
That was a much worse cut in my opinion. And Toney went out and KOed him in the next round. I think Rahman couldve given it a round or two. The bleeding seem to have stopped.
Yes...but why couldn't he see? There's your answer.
Yes like I said Im not arguing against a No Contest but the doctor did deem after the fight that the cut not serious enough for a stoppage. Rahman was complaining he couldnt see when they wasnt even any blood dripping from the cut. The doctor made a judgement based on what Rahman was saying before making a decision on the cut.
It probably shouldve been an NC but I can see how they came to that decision.
Yes...but why couldn't he see? There's your answer.
point is he could see, no he couldnt when blood was streaming into it.
but as he sat there on his stool with the blood stopped he was still insisting he could not see out of the eye due to blurred vision.... he could see fine.
there are plenty of examples of guys fighting on with worse cuts.
id like to see the cut toney said he sustained against tim littles that he fought through.
As long as boxing suffers and you have your e-points, all is well in Hitman land.
Im talking about real money, I could care less about E-points, I've already promised to return them if the verdict is overturned.
They only had one working microphone for an 8 man crew, its only appropriate that the fight was a piece of shit.
umm, once again you don't know shit about boxing. Congrats. That should have been a no contest.
Jeez you really have a boner for me dont you? You follow me round like a lost puppy.
Well I do own you so I guess its appropriate.
Never said it shouldnt have been a no contest my excitable little friend. I said I saw where they were coming from. The doctor didnt stop the fight because of the cut. Rahman said he couldnt see hence he couldnt continue. The cut wasnt serious enough to force a stoppage.
Read that over a couple of times until you get it. Theres a good boy.:wave:
The cut wasn't that big but it was very deep and the fight couldn't have gone on much longer. I've never seen anything quite like this. Usually the doctor just makes medical observations and the referee determines whether the fighter is willing to go on or not. He didn't make himself enough of a part of the situation. But to me it comes down to the cut being bad and clearly caused by a butt. After only three rounds the fight should have been thrown out. I was shocked they gave it to Toney and think Rahman's allegation about Goossen being the house promoter is legitimate.
But usually the fighter isn't complaining about not being able to see in the middle of a round either...Or saying his vision was still blurry... It clearly was a bad decision by the ref, but I guess I'm just more disappointed in Rahman's lack of heart...
I have no doubt Goosen played a big part in that decision...
The cut wasn't that big but it was very deep and the fight couldn't have gone on much longer. I've never seen anything quite like this. Usually the doctor just makes medical observations and the referee determines whether the fighter is willing to go on or not. He didn't make himself enough of a part of the situation. But to me it comes down to the cut being bad and clearly caused by a butt. After only three rounds the fight should have been thrown out. I was shocked they gave it to Toney and think Rahman's allegation about Goossen being the house promoter is legitimate.
It seemed the bleeding was stopped pretty easily and there was no swelling to speak of. I certainly dont believe Rahman's assertion that his vision was still blurred as he sat in the corner.
all in all I could care less, I got paid.
I know man...The cut was from a clash of heads...But what can the ref do? Rahman is sitting there complaining he can't see, but the cut isn't bad enough to stop the fight...Why would he complain to the Dr. like that? It's just plain puss. The only thing I can think of is he was looking for the NC.
You really think that cut was that bad? I didn't see much blood at all...
The cut wasn't that big but it was very deep and the fight couldn't have gone on much longer. I've never seen anything quite like this. Usually the doctor just makes medical observations and the referee determines whether the fighter is willing to go on or not. He didn't make himself enough of a part of the situation. But to me it comes down to the cut being bad and clearly caused by a butt. After only three rounds the fight should have been thrown out. I was shocked they gave it to Toney and think Rahman's allegation about Goossen being the house promoter is legitimate.
Rahman was a dog, but it was a serious cut and you shouldn't have lost your bet.
I know man...The cut was from a clash of heads...But what can the ref do? Rahman is sitting there complaining he can't see, but the cut isn't bad enough to stop the fight...Why would he complain to the Dr. like that? It's just plain puss. The only thing I can think of is he was looking for the NC.
You really think that cut was that bad? I didn't see much blood at all...
I don't think he quit, but his actions led him to lose the fight. Fuck Rahman.
Rahman was a dog, but it was a serious cut and you shouldn't have lost your bet.
Four rounds had not passed, and the reason the fight was stopped was a cut. It should have been a no-contest.
Or did i miss something at the start, were the rules different for this fight?
No, the reason the fight was stopped was because Rock told the Doctor he could not see. The doctor deemed the cut not severe enough to warrant stopping the fight. Rock quit.
I lost $125 cash on this fight and the only thing I can say... Rahman is a straight up twat for crying he couldn't see. Deal with the shit and let your cutman handle it in between rounds. Fucking pussy.
I dunno if i agree with the tko but I can kinda see where they're coming from. The cut alone was bad enough to end the fight, Rahman said his vision was blurry and that he couldnt see.
I wanted Toney to win, but i honestly have to say this is a NC. If the Ref had asked if he wanted to continue and he said no, i'd say TKO, but here, he just explained his symptons.... a "real" fighter (using that term loosely) would have lied about not being able to see, to make sure the ref didn't stop the fight, and rocky balboa'ed his ass. This fight was stupid, i'm over it, and i want that 11 minutes of my life back.