People seem to forget in all the fuss that was made of his age before the Calzaghe fight that he was still actually the linear Light Heavyweight champ, he may have been past his prime but he was still the best in the world. His defeat to Calzaghe was a close one and although he couldn't match Calzaghe's work rate down the stretch he showed he can still compete with elite fighters. he is still ranked top 5 p4p by rign magazine. yet there is no talk of either retirement or any future fights. he ought to be arranging some sort of farewell fight that allows him to retire on a win whilst looking good with the aim of banishing the memories of his lat few ugly encounters.
cool -your location says wildwood. that just for the summer?
you box? my bro lives in philly and is looking for a gym. he found one on torresdale ave, but said it was a little sketch from what he saw... maybe you could recommend the hot shit. where does b-hop train btw?
Nard trains out west usually.
If your brother lives in the northeast you should get some info from SpeedKillz. I haven't seen him here for a few months, but he trains in Bucks County at a high-tech place and gets serious sparring from pros and elite amateurs. He'll give you the info.
I'm in Wildwood for the summer, but I kind of live all over the country.
When I was young we had boxing in the city rec centers. I don't think they have that anymore
Your family isn't too far from where I grew up. I was near Woodhaven Road and the Boulevard.
cool -your location says wildwood. that just for the summer?
you box? my bro lives in philly and is looking for a gym. he found one on torresdale ave, but said it was a little sketch from what he saw... maybe you could recommend the hot shit. where does b-hop train btw?
I'm fairly sure that a flight from Wales to Vegas is still going to cost a lot more than it is from Philly! You're right it takes a true boxing purist to appreciate Hopkins and he can't count on the hardcore support of the British so unless there are tens of thousands of knowledgable boxing purists amongst these mean streets of Philly (which i would doubt) I guess he would be struggling.
of course, haha.
philly cats dont have money to fly to vegas. the pound is extra strong right now and makes it easier for brits to fly here.
at the same town, english and welsh fans are much more hardcore than american fans imo- at least on the grand scale. for instance, the mayweather fight seemed like it was in manchester there were so many manchunians there!
bernard's style (especially post-tito) has made it harder to gain fans since he is not a volume puncher or ko specialist. it takes a true fan of the sweet science to get and appreciate his style, especially since after Tito he didn't really produce the devestating breakdowns of fighters that used to end careers like the promising Joe Lipsey...
I'm fairly sure that a flight from Wales to Vegas is still going to cost a lot more than it is from Philly! You're right it takes a true boxing purist to appreciate Hopkins and he can't count on the hardcore support of the British so unless there are tens of thousands of knowledgable boxing purists amongst these mean streets of Philly (which i would doubt) I guess he would be struggling.
The Northeast and Cheltenham, which borders the Northeast and North Philly. My family now lives on Philmont off the blvd. I now live in NYC in Queens bordering BK....
Your family isn't too far from where I grew up. I was near Woodhaven Road and the Boulevard.
He was like 2 when he moved.
And Germantown was never gentrified. It's been middle class forever.
Where are you from?
I'm from Far Northeast.
The Northeast and Cheltenham, which borders the Northeast and North Philly. My family now lives on Philmont off the blvd. I now live in NYC in Queens bordering BK....
Why didn't he get all this support from his fans in Philly for the Calzaghe fight? Would he definately be able to get a big turnout for a sort of farewell fight? Genuine question, just asking because here in the UK the media portrays him as having few fans due to his boring style.
philly cats dont have money to fly to vegas. the pound is extra strong right now and makes it easier for brits to fly here.
at the same town, english and welsh fans are much more hardcore than american fans imo- at least on the grand scale. for instance, the mayweather fight seemed like it was in manchester there were so many manchunians there!
bernard's style (especially post-tito) has made it harder to gain fans since he is not a volume puncher or ko specialist. it takes a true fan of the sweet science to get and appreciate his style, especially since after Tito he didn't really produce the devestating breakdowns of fighters that used to end careers like the promising Joe Lipsey...
and you can be sure Woods would take it like a flash, it would certainly be his last chance of a big money fight...
I'm sure the fight would sell with the USA-GB and Hopkins vs another 'white boy'.
Of course he'd take it. His other option is to go after the British title.
actually, he moved to germantown after growing up initially in north philly in the projects, near strawberry mansion i believe- you know, the murder capital of philly. that shit is real and was even more real back when he was living there. thats where that mentality was born and he carried it with him to germantown, which has only recently gotten better and is certainly no chestnut hill yet.... (I'm from philly)
He was like 2 when he moved.
And Germantown was never gentrified. It's been middle class forever.
Where are you from?
I'm from Far Northeast.
I'll take that
and you can be sure Woods would take it like a flash, it would certainly be his last chance of a big money fight...
I'm sure the fight would sell with the USA-GB and Hopkins vs another 'white boy'.
I know the first guy who had that job. I'm a Philly native. The guy's name was Seamus, can't think of his last name. When I was a freshman at nova I invited him to speak on campus.
But c'mon Hopkins is from Germantown. He didn't have to survive anything he didn;t find himself. He's from a middle class neighborhood. Don't talk that shit to me. His 'street' ignorance is just an act.
actually, he moved to germantown after growing up initially in north philly in the projects, near strawberry mansion i believe- you know, the murder capital of philly. that shit is real and was even more real back when he was living there. thats where that mentality was born and he carried it with him to germantown, which has only recently gotten better and is certainly no chestnut hill yet.... (I'm from philly)
Why didn't he get all this support from his fans in Philly for the Calzaghe fight? Would he definately be able to get a big turnout for a sort of farewell fight? Genuine question, just asking because here in the UK the media portrays him as having few fans due to his boring style.
He could've packed a stadium in Philly a few years ago. Not likely now though. Maybe Boardwalk Hall.
That's a fair point, but at the moment he doesn't even appear to be trying to set anything up. I'm sure he could sell a Tito rematch or even something like a Clinton Woods fight, to show Tarver how it should be done and create another USA-GB fight which could sell.
I'll take that
haha - bhops charm is his complete disregard for class. hes a tru philly cat. philly's the only place where they keep a judge for improptu court hearings in the football stadium, where they also frequently have "asshole" chants for opposing teams and cheer on-field injuries to opposing players, its the murder capital of the us - overall and by gunshot. its gritty, filthy, tough and reflective of b-hop as the streets are what molded him into the survivalist phenom that he is. b-hop should come home to philly where his complete lack of respect for his opponents is part of what makes him so appreciated. i would really love for him to get the home-coming and support that has often eluded him but that his legendary career deserves...
Why didn't he get all this support from his fans in Philly for the Calzaghe fight? Would he definately be able to get a big turnout for a sort of farewell fight? Genuine question, just asking because here in the UK the media portrays him as having few fans due to his boring style.
haha - bhops charm is his complete disregard for class. hes a tru philly cat. philly's the only place where they keep a judge for improptu court hearings in the football stadium, where they also frequently have "asshole" chants for opposing teams and cheer on-field injuries to opposing players, its the murder capital of the us - overall and by gunshot. its gritty, filthy, tough and reflective of b-hop as the streets are what molded him into the survivalist phenom that he is. b-hop should come home to philly where his complete lack of respect for his opponents is part of what makes him so appreciated. i would really love for him to get the home-coming and support that has often eluded him but that his legendary career deserves...
I know the first guy who had that job. I'm a Philly native. The guy's name was Seamus, can't think of his last name. When I was a freshman at nova I invited him to speak on campus.
But c'mon Hopkins is from Germantown. He didn't have to survive anything he didn;t find himself. He's from a middle class neighborhood. Don't talk that shit to me. His 'street' ignorance is just an act.
Yeah maybe he should have a retirement fight against a second-tier opponent. But TV spots are hard to come by. Nard doesn't want to train to make a few hundred thousand on an ESPN fight. And HBO are not paying for anything other than a fight with a top guy.
That's a fair point, but at the moment he doesn't even appear to be trying to set anything up. I'm sure he could sell a Tito rematch or even something like a Clinton Woods fight, to show Tarver how it should be done and create another USA-GB fight which could sell.
Nard was so classy in the leadup, that he deserved better than being booed?
Oh yeah, faking injuries for the last three rounds so he can try to get breaks and/or a point deduction for Joe, that was the class that should have earned him a positive reception.
Or maybe it was the gracious manner in which he accepted defeat.
haha - bhops charm is his complete disregard for class. hes a tru philly cat. philly's the only place where they keep a judge for improptu court hearings in the football stadium, where they also frequently have "asshole" chants for opposing teams and cheer on-field injuries to opposing players, its the murder capital of the us - overall and by gunshot. its gritty, filthy, tough and reflective of b-hop as the streets are what molded him into the survivalist phenom that he is. b-hop should come home to philly where his complete lack of respect for his opponents is part of what makes him so appreciated. i would really love for him to get the home-coming and support that has often eluded him but that his legendary career deserves...
which is why he maybe shouldn't be looking to take on one of the top contenders but looking to erase memories of the 3. he's still good enough to easily deal with most in the division.
Yeah maybe he should have a retirement fight against a second-tier opponent. But TV spots are hard to come by. Nard doesn't want to train to make a few hundred thousand on an ESPN fight. And HBO are not paying for anything other than a fight with a top guy.