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DEFINITELY, especially if he beats him in convincingly.

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If Diaz would have beat Pacquiao, would he have took Pacquiaos top 3 P4p spot? No, same should go for Jones. Even remotely comparing Roy Jones to David Diaz is just impossible. I see where you went with that, but No. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

RWK, Calzaghe has been #1 in a lot of people's minds for a long time. Eventually you're just going to have to accept that Joe is one of the greatest fighters of his generation. behind Roy, sure, but far ahead of Hopkins and probably even ahead of Toney. No he's not. That's just fucking ridiculous. He lacks the career defining wins, sorry. He has 2 wins and they were against what we now know was a terribly green, overrated fighter.............and a severely overrated Dane who is pampered in his own circuit and became a P4P fighter based on fighting Anthony Mundine. Hopkins was 100 years old. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Since Jones v.s. Calzaghe has become a reality. We know that a large contingent of people who in fact are avid calzaghe fans, are quick to question Jones' career and claim he's a "fraud". Now the time is upon us, and the same people who are so happy he's out of the P4P lists are now faced with a serious dilemma. Jones has a good chance at beating the number 2 P4P fighter in the sport. (^hahahahahaha@ the #2 rating I'd never believe that myself) I mean according to them.......Calzaghe is the second best fighter no? If Diaz would have beat Pacquiao, would he have took Pacquiaos top 3 P4p spot? No, same should go for Jones. He has done nothing of late to even be considered a p4p fighter: He let the smaller shot Trinidad go the distance with him. (his best win in years) Beat Anthony Hansaw? Then Prince Badi Ajamu?? Not exactly anything that is p4p about that. Tarver- LOSS Glen Johnson- LOSS: Got knocked out badly. Tarver- LOSS: Got knocked out badly. Even if Jones were to win he shouldnt be anywhere near a top 15 p4p list. A Calzaghe win for him would be great. Most likey one of the best fighters hes ever been in with. If he were to win it would be one of his biggest wins by far(what does that tell you?lol) But the P4P list is for fighters who consistantly win and against good competion.

Quite simply: yes.

If Calzaghe loses to Roy I will go ahead and say Calzaghe has the most overhyped career of anyone in the history of boxing. It will destroy everything he has "accomplished" to lose to an old, shot Roy Jones.

As old as he is, Hopkins manages to make everyone look bad. Yes and no. Joe didn't put in his best performance against Hopkins and you can't really blame Hopkins for that. Joe did enough to win the fight, but left question marks.

Okay, here's what I'm getting at then - you seem to regularly suggest that P4P should be based on achievement, not hypothetical potential. Correct? Yet by placing Lacy in a P4P ranking just for beating up on a washed up Pemberton you're contradicting this somewhat. Because, by your own earlier volition you suggest (I'm talking about other threads here) that to be P4P you have to beat P4P. Which Lacy clearly didn't. See, I lean more towards potential. I mean, if the whole idea of it is "if these fighters were the same size, who would win?" then Hell yeah I'd have Joe higher than an old Wanky Wrong. In fact, I'd even have him higher than Ping Ping. But.... would I have him higher than one or both Amiguez's? Probably not. Now you're just assuming that I use a certain limited criteria in judging fighters and labeling them with a ranking. If that's the case then I'd be like the only person right? lol Because as it stands it seems like people have Calzaghe on their P4P lists because of how cool they think he is. Sure experience against opposition is probably the most important factor............but that didn't hold a candle to the fashion in which Lacy was taking everyone apart en route to title contention and status. He looked invincible, and even the Brits were nervous about him coming to fight Calzaghe. There are some cases where someone's noticeable abilities (Guzman also because of his speed and skillset) would influence you into a certain rating. Oh and since you claim "Potential" is really the thing you base a fighter's ratings on. Why in the hell would you have Calzaghe rated up high..........when he looked like total shit against Hopkins? He's not a light heavyweight at all. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Yes, but then he beat Manfredo which pushed him to the top...... No No, he beat the godly Saiko Bika. He should be Number 1. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

What the hell does that fight have to do with this prospect? I think you're jumping a gun here. I never once claimed that Calzaghe wasn't P4P material. I just would never call him the #2 guy surpassing everyone else like Wright and the Marquez brothers. Calzaghe beating Lacy put him in the top ten. Didn't it? I thought most were in agreement about that. Yes, but then he beat Manfredo which pushed him to the top......

My prediction was Calzaghe 115-113, possibly by controversial means. I obviously had no idea it would be one of the biggest one-sided ass pwnages in history, but I wasn't sold on Lacy. Why? Because I saw him swinging wildly against Pemberton, missing constantly and being wide open to counters - a fact even my 70 year old aunt noticed - and then saw a washed up Pemberton take a dive. Okay, he was decked, but he could have got back up. Then I come on here and read about how he was the second coming of Tyson. wtf???? And if Lacy was P4P for THAT, then why isn't Joe P4P for the one sided ass pwnage? What the hell does that fight have to do with this prospect? I think you're jumping a gun here. I never once claimed that Calzaghe wasn't P4P material. I just would never call him the #2 guy surpassing everyone else like Wright and the Marquez brothers. Calzaghe beating Lacy put him in the top ten. Didn't it? I thought most were in agreement about that. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Semi, why is it so outrageous and funny to you that Calzaghe could be rated #2 P4P when you had Jeff "LOL" Lacy in the top ten after beating Scott "old and there for the payday" Pemberton? I don't get your logic, brother. Lacy was P4P material prior to fighting Calzaghe. End of story. Nobody knew how green he was, including you. lol I definitely don't remember you talking it up about how Cal was going to win. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

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im giving 4 on 1 odds on jones if anyone want to bet points i have calzaghe i just cant see calzaghe losing his 0 against an ancient roy jones Well christ, if it's 4-1 I'll put 10k on Roy.

Agreed. That's really the only major factor to me. He looked just flat out terrible against Hopkins..........and if he's that slow footed at that weight he's going to get easily outclassed en route to a beating. The list of fighter's who looked good against Hopkins is big isn't it? Calzaghe getting a beating from a modern Jones is just fan boy excitement, i expect better from a BS veteran.

bottom 10 p4p if he beats joe. top 15-20 minimum. I agree with this

Roy Jones has to be put back into the top ten P4P if he beats Calzaghe. Calzaghe is many peoples #2, so I'd at least put Roy in somewhere down the bottom of the list.

I would put Roy in the top 10 definitely, even though calzaghe isnt that higly rates on mine, i ould put Roy between #4-7

Yes, if Jones were to beat Calzaghe it would put him in the p4p list. I think it is unlikely, Joe Calzaghe is no Prince Badi or Antony Hanshaw. Roy has lost his step, lost his reflexes and lost his killer instinct. He used to intimidate guys into nervousness, nowadays he's known for being chinny and really not that hard to hit. Old hopkins is younger as a fighter than old Jones, and Hopkins has spent much of his career making his opponent look bad, including Jermain Taylor. I love how people argue with an absolutely clear cut decision win by saying things like "lol he wuz jus hittin gloves and forearms" and "lulz he wuz taken to skool!".