McClellan revisited...

i remember a while back it was a story on how Gerald was dog fighting his dogs and shit.....and people were like "oh well he deserved it" or "i hope he dies" what kind of human would wish that on someone?? A self righteous hypocrite who puts animals lives above humans.What's funny is that some of those same people have no problem going out and shooting an animal for sport.

Man, that video is heart breaking. Yes it is and it makes it even more amazing that there are people on here who say he deserves to be in this condition because he was involved with Dog fighting. I don't condone that or like it, but to me it's hypocritical to have a sympathy for an animal without showing the same compassion for a human.

i remember a while back it was a story on how Gerald was dog fighting his dogs and shit.....and people were like "oh well he deserved it" or "i hope he dies" what kind of human would wish that on someone??

You know, what's right is right... I just watched the tape of this over again and I WAS WRONG... Ferdie wasnt as blatant as I said he was....I apologize if he ever reads this...he was saying that it MIGHT BE head trauma, it MIGHT BE a broken bone in the face or it MIGHT BE that he quit (it might be that his heart gave out) he kept saying that it was "resignation" on Gerald's part and just LOOKING at it that is what you could deduct from it...he said they'd have to wait and see when the doctors got in there and checked it out...so let it be known that Ferdie wasnt out of line like I thought he was.

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I just don't think it's as simple as that. You might be right. There might be things I'm missing. Otherwise it should have been implemented by now. Maybe too many blood-suckers who wants to see cas now and ppl who dont think of the fighters before thinking of themselves.

Yeah but what you have to take into account is that there is a ton of fighters out there, some of them with 10% winning percentage. Who should get what? Some fighters are fighting for 1000 bucks, others for 30 million. Not everybody is fighting for a belt, Abraham and Miranda sure didn't the second time around. There are aslo many governing bodies, many belts. Fighters should set up their own retirement instead of blowing money on everything else. If you make 1000 bucks a fight and you fight 5 times a year, I'd consider this a part-time job. This idea can not work in the pros. It could work in the amateurs but definately not the U.S. amateur system cause they don't fight much as adults there, they turn pros. In countries like Cuba, Russia, Romania, Kazakstan and many other European countries where amateur boxing is much more prevalent, this could work. I am originally from Bulgaria and we have fighters who are in their mid-30's and still fighting in the amateur ranks. Sure it could work. I'm definetely not saying this should be under federal regulation rather controlled by the particular alphabet-org. I think that you perhaps are missing a bit of the point here. I'm not talking about saving the world for all fighters, but it should be possible to take a slice of the purse in fights the organization sanctions and then make the donations later to those who have fought the fights. Just like it is with normal pension-schemes (at least where I live and I think it's the same in the US as well). I cannot see the scheme implemented to cover 4-round fighters.

sad sad sad.......makes you have more respect for refs that dont care about blood thirsty action and really cares about the fighters safety. No matter how good a fight is, the fighters safety should always be the 1st priority God Bless Gerald and Nigel.......and jack please dont make anymore jokes

How are u going to set up a retirement scheme? It's a lovely idea, but I don't think it can work in reality. There are far too many intangibles. What do you propose? What it takes is some balls by the governing bodies. They should charge a slight 'pension-fee' from every fight they sanction. The set-up should be like any other pension-fond scheme. Everybody pays or the wont fight for that organization. IMO the funds should be governed by some establised independant bank, law-, equity or auditfirm since I wouldn't trust the governing body itself. The fond should pay an amount to every fighter who has fought in one of their sanctioned fights on a monthly basis after their say 50'th birthday. The scheme should include some medical-insurance as well.

Pacheco said his heart gave out on him...and he is a DOCTOR...I was always amazed by that one. I have been in fights where I was in distress and believe me, there were definitely moments where I wondered if I was possibly iheading towards a Gerald McClellan type ending. That is the reality of professional boxing. Any respect I ever had for Pacheco went down the toilet that night. I was a fan watching on TV and I could tell there was something wrong, yet this clown is a medical doctor sitting ringside and he couldn't? Absolutely shameful and I'm glad Showtime finally dumped that fool.

I remember seeing a vid where a reporter who covered McClellan in his fighting days went to visit him not too long ago. McClellan remembered him but had no memory of that fight. He also asked him questions like..."Did you see me fight?"...."What color were my trunks?"...."Was I good?" Sad stuff.

To a degree I can understand the close-eyes approach by present fighters as they dont want a hands-on experience of the risks they deep-down know is clear and present. What I cannot understand is that the so-called governing bodies of the sport dont set up some retirement scheme for the fighters. It could easily be financed by a small percentage of championship-fights purses. That's what sickens me!

Is it true that Gerald McClellan doesn't know what happened to him? Feel sorry for Nigel Benn also with having to live with it, day in day out. Benn even tried to gas himself in his car cause it was getting to him so bad. Really sad story.

shit is heartbreaking very hard to watch without gettin emotional

How can any sick fucker make jokes about this?

yeh i seen this and theres been a few threads about this video its very disturbing even roy jones cudnet go see gerald because he would want to quit boxing if he did.

The demise of his dog Duece foreshadowed everything.

Yea U would assume and hope that Pacheco deeply regrets his statement but..it just shows the knee jerk raction many who are not truly in the know think when they see something like that. Oh he quit, hes a dog, hes got no heart etc etc etc blah blah blah. In professional boxing, in a "sport' so vicious and brutal that calls for two men to engage in warfare for a designated period of time (you cant just call time out when stuff gets deep) there is a lot more involved than meets the eye (Especially an eye that really doesnt know what it is looking at).

Man its so f-ed up what happend to Gerrald he should be a millionaire maybe even a GOAT rigt now.. just think if he was still fighting some gouys wouldnt be as relavent and some not even mentioned in the books, like Benn maybe think if he lost that fight by 1st rd ko

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LGz-unNi1dU&feature=related << Next time a guy looks weak, is getting hit a lot, isn't showing the Gatti-Ward-Holyfield type of heart we all admire so much, think before you jump on him. The announcer was saying Gerald quit like a dog and that "his heart gave out on him." Not exactly, huh? Man, that video is heart breaking.

Benn is a HOF fighter because he beat McCellan, Doug DeWitt, Iran Barkley etc. Eubank is a HOF fighter because he beat Benn, KO'd him. SO why does no-one give Calzaghe credit for beating Eubank? Eubank was only 31, a little past his prime. Anyway McCellan was a machine, and a HOF fighter cos he ko'd Julian Jackson and was the reignin linear middleweight champ at the time. His mistake was looking past Benn and towards Jones Jnr.