The great debate....Too all ppl...Cotto, or Tito

A killer hook.....R u iight have u seen Cotto's left hook to the body?!?!?!The man beats ppl down....he dont wanna KO you with one punch he wants to destroy you....his left hook to the body is a thing of beauty.....say what you want about the guy and i dont think he could touch Flloyd but the mans got some serious skills and his LH to the body is untouchable among any fighters today.... I agree with u and I dont Cotto's left hook to body is a beauty just like it was for chavez..and about him gettin to floyd he definitely wouldve been able to catch him and break his body too..floyd would run yes but eventually he would have to stop to recieve his death sentence haha..

so his left hook is better then tito's left hook? Cotto doesn't have the character or the opponents like tito had. he also didnt have nice speed with a killer hook to go with it. Did i say that.........read above then realize where your mistake was......Cotto has the killer hook, it might not be where Tito's was, but your fuckin right the guy has a killer hook Fruity!

The only Puerto Rican fighter that is around today that I think can succesfully carry Tito's Jockstrap is Juanma bingo. cotto in a year or two won't even be the best puerto rican fighter at the moment. let alone beat out tito. all aboard the juan manuel lopez bandwagon!!!!!! GO JUANMA!!!!!! WAR LOPEZ!!!!!! ......putting on the replay of the ponce de leon fight...... ahhh...... what a beautiful sight.......

A killer hook.....R u iight have u seen Cotto's left hook to the body?!?!?!The man beats ppl down....he dont wanna KO you with one punch he wants to destroy you....his left hook to the body is a thing of beauty.....say what you want about the guy and i dont think he could touch Flloyd but the mans got some serious skills and his LH to the body is untouchable among any fighters today.... so his left hook is better then tito's left hook?

in few years Cotto will be the man! losses to floyd jr. and antonio ain't gonna help his case......

There will never be another tito in Puerto rico!!! Tito was the man and no one can carry the weight. Cotto doesn't have the character or the opponents like tito had. he also didnt have nice speed with a killer hook to go with it. cotto's resume will never add up when compared to titos A killer hook.....R u iight have u seen Cotto's left hook to the body?!?!?!The man beats ppl down....he dont wanna KO you with one punch he wants to destroy you....his left hook to the body is a thing of beauty.....say what you want about the guy and i dont think he could touch Flloyd but the mans got some serious skills and his LH to the body is untouchable among any fighters today....

in few years Cotto will be the man!

True....I think Cotto has all the makings to be a ATG, only time will tell. And your right, I;d love to see some fire out of Cotto, I remember was Bernard did to Tito and to all of PR, which was an absolute disgrace to himself, and man Tito was soo fired up I thought he was going to fuckin kill Bernard right there on the spot...Of course B-Hop says thats what he wanted and BLAH BLAH.....I just wanna see Miguel Cotto be driven to an extent where he needs to talk and he needs to let more then just his in ring performances do the talkin....Although thats all thats been needed thus far, i just think that we need to see that fire, if we'll ever see it, who knows, but it would be nice to see him get a lil bent outta shape before a fight and really get wild!! Cotto gets pumped up for a little after the fight but probably for a few seconds like the judah fight he was pumped at the end blood and all flowin and shit...haha:boxing:

Let me ask you this.....you being Puerto Rican.....I believe, do u think that in terms of what Tito meant to your country that Cotto can ever match up to him. I mean lets face it Tito is and will always be an Icon in PR. Can Cotto ever mean to his homeland what Tito does? There will never be another tito in Puerto rico!!! Tito was the man and no one can carry the weight. Cotto doesn't have the character or the opponents like tito had. he also didnt have nice speed with a killer hook to go with it. cotto's resume will never add up when compared to titos

no debate needed. felix "tiiiiiiiiiito!!!!!" trinidad........ resume and legacy goes to felix. in a head to head fight cotto gets ktfo! tito wins either way. that posts is all that is needed to say in this....Threadstarted why would you even compare the two????????

But it's also a testament to the type of person Miguel must be, and I'd imagine him to be a great guy to be around outside the ring.

Cotto is already bein loved but the difference between cotto and tito is that cotto is mad quiet and tito was all about screamin his name out pumped up and all.. showin that fire he had to just punish fighters and let people kno he does it for his peoples but cotto is the same but quiet as fuck and just goes to the ring and handles business so far.. True....I think Cotto has all the makings to be a ATG, only time will tell. And your right, I;d love to see some fire out of Cotto, I remember was Bernard did to Tito and to all of PR, which was an absolute disgrace to himself, and man Tito was soo fired up I thought he was going to fuckin kill Bernard right there on the spot...Of course B-Hop says thats what he wanted and BLAH BLAH.....I just wanna see Miguel Cotto be driven to an extent where he needs to talk and he needs to let more then just his in ring performances do the talkin....Although thats all thats been needed thus far, i just think that we need to see that fire, if we'll ever see it, who knows, but it would be nice to see him get a lil bent outta shape before a fight and really get wild!!

Let me ask you this.....you being Puerto Rican.....I believe, do u think that in terms of what Tito meant to your country that Cotto can ever match up to him. I mean lets face it Tito is and will always be an Icon in PR. Can Cotto ever mean to his homeland what Tito does? Cotto is already bein loved but the difference between cotto and tito is that cotto is mad quiet and tito was all about screamin his name out pumped up and all.. showin that fire he had to just punish fighters and let people kno he does it for his peoples but cotto is the same but quiet as fuck and just goes to the ring and handles business so far..

I think that the fight with bernard was a good fight tito landed shots but that was the best fight of bernard whole career and he really shined that night..Tito left cause his pops if he wouldnt have left... it wouldnt had been a downfall for tito the rest of the way..I think he still wouldve been doin his damn thing still..maybe at 154 not 160.. Let me ask you this.....you being Puerto Rican.....I believe, do u think that in terms of what Tito meant to your country that Cotto can ever match up to him. I mean lets face it Tito is and will always be an Icon in PR. Can Cotto ever mean to his homeland what Tito does?

The only Puerto Rican fighter that is around today that I think can succesfully carry Tito's Jockstrap is Juanma

Hands down agree. just think what if the guy didnt walk away after the B-Hop beating....I think he would still be here today and be on the downfall yes, but nowhere near as rusty and drained as he is from taking too much time off... I think that the fight with bernard was a good fight tito landed shots but that was the best fight of bernard whole career and he really shined that night..Tito left cause his pops if he wouldnt have left... it wouldnt had been a downfall for tito the rest of the way..I think he still wouldve been doin his damn thing still..maybe at 154 not 160..

I mrsnt hypothetically if he was unable to win 1 of those 2 fights ppl would still have him as an ATG because of his resume and who the man went into the ring with time and time again

u said he wasnt able to pile up victories against DLH and whitaker he did beat them..lets not forget about him beatin a david reid that was blowin up but neva the same after tito and a william joppy that people though tito might lose to or just go back to maurice blocker were people didnt expect tito tell kill him like that.. I know that came out wrong and yes Reid was 14-0 @ the time, and everyone thought he was comin up and goin to run through a lot of ppl, and look @ what Tito didto him.....again just shows you that Tito had the ability to truly destroy ppl's career.....

Felix Tito Trinidad had turned 27 years old in the year 2000. Judging from that stand point to Miguel Cotto who is at this time 27 years old what can we say. First off I want to start by making something very very clear and I think that we will all agree. Many fighters who can be determined as great fighters need to have had there time in the sun with other great fighters within the division. This gives them the oppurtunity to fight ppl who are sometime P4P great fighters and other very solid competition. Lets start it off with this Tito Came into his game @ a time when from front to back the Welterweight division was hands down the best division in boxing. And by the way with names like...Whitaker, DLH, Camacho, Campas, Chavez, Mosley, Quartey...ETC ETC.....this @ the time was one of the strongest divisions in the history of boxing. From top to bottom there were some P4P fighters and great fighter all around. This in fact will enhance Tito's legacy forever. Even if he wasn't able to pile up victories over P4P greats like DLH and Whitaker, and dominating undefeated fighters like Campas and Oba Carr. He would still be known as a great fighter because of the level of competition that the man had been in the ring with. To me at this time, not the later years although he did take on some more stellar competition after his hayday...He was able to establish himself as a fighter who really took the the best opposition @ this given time frame.(Not to mention that in 2000, he moved up to 154 and Beat Vargas who again at the time was undefeated, and since this defeat, Vargas was never the same). Tito hurt ppl, they fought him and he demolished them. Fighters like Vargas, Carr and even Campas, they got beat up and beat up bad. Neither of these fighters went on to o have much success after the Trinidad loss. Vargas and Campas became transtitional champions after, but neither fighter was able to have a real career defining victory after there first defeat. Point being said.....Miguel Cotto is at the age of 27 now, and yes he has a decent resume with wins over fighter as Mosley and Judah, Malignaggi and we'll throw in former WBO champ Ricardo Torres, but he has yet to truly have that career defining fight that Trinidad had already been involved in on numerous occasions with DLH, Whitaker, Vargas, Campas, Camacho. Now im not saying it's Cotto's fault because lets face it thus far he's wiped out every man who has stepped up to him. And yes he has a huge showdown coming up on July 26 with Margarito, but even still it doesnt seem to have the same build up as say Tito V DLH.......or even @ the time 2 undefeated fighters Tito V Campas. Now don't get me wrong i think Cotto will in fact be on to great things (even more now that Mayweather isn't there to beat him), but is it more of a case where Felix came up @ a time where there were soo many solid, good, P4P fighters in his weight division. Where as now, Cotto doesn't really seemingly have those huge fights available, and even soo if he were to somehow land a fight with DLH, how much real credit could we give him if he were to beat the man. Flloyd beat him and beat him good, good win......yes....great win.....no. I guess the point im making is that I think that Tito was an ATG yes, and someday maybe Cotto will be as well. But Tito was lightyears ahead of him at the respected age of 27. Tito was a seasoned vet, who had won every big fight and beat every big name that he could possibly had beaten. At this time Cotto has beaten them all, but how many big names will we remember him for at this point in his career???? u said he wasnt able to pile up victories against DLH and whitaker he did beat them..lets not forget about him beatin a david reid that was blowin up but neva the same after tito and a william joppy that people though tito might lose to or just go back to maurice blocker were people didnt expect tito tell kill him like that..

ray robinson won his first title at 27.tito's problem was he quit to young.and came back rusty. Hands down agree. just think what if the guy didnt walk away after the B-Hop beating....I think he would still be here today and be on the downfall yes, but nowhere near as rusty and drained as he is from taking too much time off...