Was it the right hand? or the headbutt from holt that koed torres?

http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/torres-holt.gif The headbutt tucked him in , the right hand put him to sleep. Thanks for the gif. Pretty much sums it up. Can't wait to see a third fight! :boxing:

http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/torres-holt.gif The headbutt tucked him in , the right hand put him to sleep.

It was a combination of three things. The headbutt, Torres' hand caught on the rope, then the 1-2 by Holt. Here's some pics from another thread I posted in. http://www.grabup.com/uploads/97e819e0be92e3a68bd747edcd834dda.png Here's the head butt point of impact. http://www.grabup.com/uploads/2733c6e4332f0f45fbbee9ff096976d5.png Torres left hand gets caught on the rope http://www.grabup.com/uploads/48c4a64352a870798afedcd6432d2a8a.png Another angle. http://www.grabup.com/uploads/03da394980eeb7c88a90cbaefdd97c53.png Holt about to land that vicious right

Without a doubt the headbutt is what set him up for the big right. Watching the slow mo instant replay at the right angle, you can clearly see Torres legs buckle from the butt(caused cut above Holt's right eye). Then falling into the ropes he had his arms open to try to sturdy himself in the ropes which left him wide open. Before he realized Holt was about to take a huge advantage of that situation, he couldn't get his arms up in a defensive position to block the howizter coming at him. End of story. Definitely need a 3rd fight now.

The headbutt messed him up that lead to the KO.

Well, technically the right hand KOd him, but the headbutt had something to do with it and left him very vulnerable. I think had he not been headbutted, he wouldn't have been KOd.

Torres was wobbled by that headbutt which put him in a bad position but that right hand TORCHED him.

How sterling of all people can grasp this concept and others cant astounds me. The right hand was the KO... end of story. If there was just the headbutt and had Holt not thrown for several seconds it's not like Torres would've suddenly fallen down. Did the accidental butt set up Torres somewhat? Yes, but it was still the punch that did the work. Thats basically what i said the headbutt set up the right hand he wudnet of got such a open shot on torres if it wasnt for the butt. Im not saying the right hand didnt ko torres it was indeed the right hand that knocked out torres but you got to look at the position he was in after the headbutt he was wide open for it.

torres chin is pretty suspect after that.

How sterling of all people can grasp this concept and others cant astounds me. The right hand was the KO... end of story. If there was just the headbutt and had Holt not thrown for several seconds it's not like Torres would've suddenly fallen down. Did the accidental butt set up Torres somewhat? Yes, but it was still the punch that did the work. Can't really argue with that. If the right hand misses there is a good chance that Torres recovers. The butt set up the right, however there is no disputing that perfect right is what KO'd Ricardo Torres.

of course the punch KO'd him but the headbutt put him in the most defenseless position ever and the butt stunned him. Combine that with a vicsious shot and nite nite time

I think he wudnet of had that opening if he hadnt of headbutted torres but it was the right hand that koed him a good open shot. How sterling of all people can grasp this concept and others cant astounds me. The right hand was the KO... end of story. If there was just the headbutt and had Holt not thrown for several seconds it's not like Torres would've suddenly fallen down. Did the accidental butt set up Torres somewhat? Yes, but it was still the punch that did the work.

I think he wudnet of had that opening if he hadnt of headbutted torres but it was the right hand that koed him a good open shot.

it was the headbutt, get over the right.

It was the right.Get over it.

He clearly knocked him out with the right hand. The headbutt had a part to play too.

7000 threads like this one already exists.

torres was fucked up from the headbutt, he was sitting on middle rope when he got hit with the right hand, no headbutt, no ko