Who has the best handspeed all time and active? There may have to be a couple different answers regarding different weight classes but.. as a vague overhaul who comes to mind when you hear handspeed? To start I'd name Mayweather and Leonard. Anyone have any thoughts?
calzaghe has great speed but amaturish..meaning he has no power on his punches..Sort of like leonard when he was an amateur. They were effetive punches at that level but when he turned pro, Dundee made him committ more to his punches. Calzaghe simply has not had to face a great roy jones, or someone that would expose the fact that his punches are slaps.
Not knocking him, but he would get slaughtered had he had to face a prime roy, or James toney...etc.
Its kinda hard to tell because some fighters throw one punch very quick like Hearns jab looked like a missle. Ali obviously for a heavyweight was great. Roy has super fast hands and they were made to look even faster because of his reflexes, he seemed to know opponets were gonna throw a punch before they did. Floyd has quick hands but is not blazing fast by any means
I think it's Tarver right now.
I mean I've always noticed how fast his hands are when he starts throwing those combinations of patter or whatnot. Also he throws the left out of fucking nowhere and you can't even see it.
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Now if we ever have a thread titled best combinations...Leonard threw combinations that trainers today still remark is by far he best. There may be some that are a bit faster, but none with the combined speed power, accuracy and that can ko you with any punch in the multi punch combination thrown...Then on top of that, ray could use lateral movement while thowring punches to pivot and position himself at either side of his opponent, leaving a prime leonard very very difficult to hit while he throw these combinations.
You never saw Ray able to do this after his 1st retirment.
As an amateur Sugar Ray leonard hands were the fastest I have ever ever seen. As a professional, I would say Roy Jones was the fastest, as Dundee intended on slowing ray a bit, and having him set on his punches for more power.
I believe that Leonard say Mosley was the fastest he had seen, and that he was in awe of Taylors combinations. So you have several different types of speed.
My top Five
Leonard as an amateur
Mosley
Jones,
Taylor
Camacho, super super super fast....
Pretty pathetic, it took 7 pages for Camacho to be mentioned once. People are just mimicking each other's answers :ugh:maybe, maybe not, but as far as camacho goes, i have him up there also, fast as shit in his prime.
and the thing about floyd's handspeed is, floyd has exceptional handspeed and has always had exceptional hanspeed, but the reason his punchers didn't look as fats as say a taylor's or a judah's or even a jones jr is because his handspeed was was built on top of his upperbody movement and timing, which is why i put his speed overall above them all, because mayweather's upperbody movement was extremely flexible, and his body positioning made his speed that much faster. i have to say watch the justing jukko fight, and i list that fight a lot because that imo was mayweather's best performance skillwise overall until he foguth gatti. he was lighting fast and his speed was ran by sharp punches, which is why his hands could look slower than a zab judah, but a lot of zab's snappy punches was built on power and one shot punches, roy's handspeed was just undescribable was he was also very flighty when he punched alot, leaping into his shots. and he threw more combinations than the other fighters, his speed was a thing of beauty, but in no way, was his handspeed as fast on the defense as floyd's was with sharpness to add to it. i'm not saying that he didn't punch fast when he countered, he did, and threw combos also, not just one shot, but floyd's speed, was fast on the block, meaning he countered off of the block fast, looked fluent doing it, and effective. i mean his opponent could throw a jab floyd's midsection, and floyd would block it with either hands and follow it up with a snapping jab of his own or a left hook or right hand, it didn't matter, he did it with blinding speed, and when he blocked off of the shoulder roll, it was just a thing of beauty to watch. that people his using speed with skill, not just having speed. many fighters have speed, but only a few like a jones jr, leonard, mayweather, ali, and a few others like taylor have speed with skills. only a elect few fighters in history has looked as naturally fluent with their speed as floyd has, i mean, the man blocked punches with his shoulder and arm only to counter back with a fast punch, off of the ropes on him the middle of the ring, that's fast handspeed with flexible upperbody movement.
i'd have to say, the floyd mayweather mayweather who fought justin jukko is up there, no doubt, roy jones of course, leonard, ali, zab, taylor, camacho, tyson, james toney was fast for his size imo also.
Floyd did NOT have faster hands than Mel Taylor! Also Camacho Sr's hands were faster than Floyd's.
Floyd threw very fast single punches, but what made him exceptional were his reflexes, skills, and legs.
Taylor threw much faster combos. As did Camacho, Judah, and Mosley.
Pretty pathetic, it took 7 pages for Camacho to be mentioned once. People are just mimicking each other's answers :ugh:
To me having fast hands is good if u can throw punches with authority at the same velocity Taylor could not and IMO that is why Norris walked through him i know Taylor was a not a LM but Norris was a small LM and could have made WW by his own admission he told Taylor before the fight dont pitty patter cause ill just walk right through u and thats exactly what happened in the end
Taylor was shot, didn't matter what he did against norris, he would lose.
Joan Guzman has great handspeed. Juan Diaz's handspeed is underrated
Yeah man Joan Guzman throws those power such with so much speed and I could jack off to those triple left hooks.