Who Wins? Pac Man vs Guzman!!!

DLT17y ago

I still think my boy Guzman gets overlooked. Even now people want to see Pac fight Campbell or Casamayor. I think Guzman is sick and we can now finally talk about that fight since Pac is up. I know that Im going to take heat but I still think Pac's opponents are overrated. He fights MAB & EM while they are clearly on the downside and he is much bigger. Then he fights JMM but I have always thought that guy was so overrated in boxing. He has great technique but gets busted up alot for a guy who supposedly has so much skill. Still, Ill give Pac that. Then he fights guys like Larios who's on the back end and now Diaz who is clearly not on the level. Then it makes me mad because he can fight guys like JMM, MAB, and EM a million times because you guys and the media fall for it and love these guys. Its all recycling. Just once I would love to see him face someone different like Guzman, Casamayor, Campbell, Diaz, Katsidis, or whoever. The Diaz fight was solid because he's a different face but the media just eats it up because they love the Mexican stuff. That dude has never been on Pac's level. Dont get me wrong, Pac is a great fighter no matter what but I do think he gets overrated for fighting big name guys who he's much bigger then, are past there prime, and are Mexicans. I also think he has a huge advantage by being a Southpaw but Ill leave that alone since everyone always rips me when I talk about that. That is by far his #1 attribute to me. You can tell that it gives all these guys fits

Comments (20)

AintGottaClue

if guzman can beat pac he will get his name up on pacs list come 9-13, i know its boxrec but it has guzman vs nate campbell and if guzman can win then we can see this fight happen

17y ago

wakwak

If he beat Casamayor or Campbell they were old and well past their prime. If he beat Guzman or Katsidis they were over rated/inexperienced. People will find an excuse for everything these days. if pac beat god then god is over rated/past prime/bum :boxing:

17y ago

MWMerlino

Just once I would love to see him face someone different like Guzman, Casamayor, Campbell, Diaz, Katsidis, or whoever. The Diaz fight was solid because he's a different face but the media just eats it up because they love the Mexican stuff. If he beat Casamayor or Campbell they were old and well past their prime. If he beat Guzman or Katsidis they were over rated/inexperienced. People will find an excuse for everything these days.

17y ago

Gareth_Ivanovic

Guzman could present a challenge for Pac because of his hand speed and foot quickness. I don't think he would have the power to hurt Pac though. I feel Pac would win a close UD or SD over Guzman, basically because he could land lean effective punches and just be more active than Guzman.

17y ago

jay_station

dude jmm is not overrated for the longest he was underrated not even morales and barrera in there prime wanted to match up with him, a clear example of why is the first manny pacquiao and jmm fight, yeah jmm went down 3 times in the first ,but jmm clearly schooled him after that jmm had him figured out. yup i recogized that pacquiao has gotten better but open ur eyes he won a close rematch with jmm

17y ago

Titing_Kabayo

I don't like boxers with bad breath and Guzman is number one.... His power is not enough to KO pacquiao..

17y ago

Tata_Moran

GUzman should beat some quality oppositions first before he gets a crack with Pacman. Climb the ladder against some top rated boxers maybe.

17y ago

Papa_Ace

Guzman has a Chin of STone! Domain a lotta people are still awake trying to hear from your side on the Celtics issue. :poke:

17y ago

Heru

If Arum is speaking about Valero why not Guzman especially if he beats Campbell and holds 3 of the 4 major lightweight titles. Pacquiao has more than enough on his plate though and Joan is last in line. Pac plans to fight November and the only options that are available for around that time are Valero and De La Hoya After that fight if Hatton wins I can not see Hatton-Pacquiao not poppin off. Guzman would have to beat Campbell and the winner of Casamayor-Marquez or Diaz-Katsidis to be in a great position to face Pac. If he can beat the winner of one of those 2 he will beat Pac late next year or early 2010 dont expect Arum to be in a hurry to put him in with unless Marquez and Hatton lose in their next fights.

17y ago

Nemisis

guzman's power is lacking but he will be able to befuddle pacquaio with his defense. yeah he is slick.

17y ago

Pullcounter7451

am I the only one that thinks Guzman is not that big a puncher? I think Pac has carried his strength well and would Dominate Guzman, but I think Guzman would be smart enough to avoid Pac's left and survive the night on his feet. Pac UD guzman's power is lacking but he will be able to befuddle pacquaio with his defense.

17y ago

Pullcounter7451

if i'm bob arum i would never put pacquiao in a fight with guzman unless the money was too good not to. He's too slick.

17y ago

Nemisis

17y ago

Pico_Hollywood

Guzman is ridiculous athletic after he silences Nate "the Miracle at 36" Campbell for good.. Pac should fight him for sure

17y ago

WLAD_OWNS

Pacman by KO

17y ago

ringer

Because Juan Manuel Marquez/Joel Casamayor would be waiting. He should fight him after that though. Fuck ricky hatton and oscar de la hoya. I don't see the point in this either, unless it's money. Hatton was nearly knocked out twice against Juan Lazcano in his last fight, he looked horrible after the first 4 rounds. Poor stamina, slow reflexes, everything was showing signs of decay. Oscar went the distance with Steve Forbes, who is a defensive fighter, but Oscar basically won because of Forbes inability to throw. Oscar's been on the downfall for a very long, long time. He's just stretching it out to make as much money as possible. In terms of actual competition, I'd go with Casamayor and the winner of Guzman/Campbell. In terms of money, Hatton and Oscar are where it's at. And Hatton would be a cakewalk, Mayweather already ruined what was left of him.

17y ago

Silencers

Haven't seen Guzman at 135 yet so it's hard to say. Right now at 135, I'd go with Pacquiao.

17y ago

warp1432

Because Juan Manuel Marquez/Joel Casamayor would be waiting. He should fight him after that though. Fuck ricky hatton and oscar de la hoya.

17y ago

ringer

If Guzman gets past Nate Campbell there's no logical reason why Manny shouldn't fight him.

17y ago

Left_Hook_Tua

how about we wait for guzman to win his fight first? because if he doesn't i guarantee you he will never get a fight. there's marquez finish business with. there's big money in hatton. casamayor and juan diaz are bigger names than him. let him win first then bring him up. because i guarantee you until he wins belts at 135 he is not even part of the discussion right now.

17y ago