Ive had enough of this talk about abraham

Ive had enough of this talk about abraham being a p4p puncher and a excellent fighter. What has this fighter proven? He can beat a wild miranda and expose his chin and his heart. Dont get me wrong miranda had heart but i felt hes let it slip now that hes moved up in wieght and had a little bit of money. How did abraham beat miranda? Easy hes the better boxer and miranda was fighting with emotions he wanted to hurt abraham and disrespect him thats why he didnt look at him when they went to touch gloves in round 1. He caught miranda with a punch he didnt see because he was to open and to wild he got caught while trying to throw a combination then he gave up. It stil gets me and sorta hurts me that miranda let abraham land that wild left hook 2nd kd it shud never have landed but it did with his full body wieght behind it. That exposed his chin miranda was the smaller man for sure and jumping up in wieght wasnt a good idea he should of stayed at 160 dont give me this bull about him not being able to make it anymore. He could still make the wieght but he just cudnet fit it into his new life style now that he isnt a up and coming fighter fighting for his life. Abraham isnt a p4p puncher miranda hits harder and you will see this if abraham ever has the balls to fight pavlik. Go ahead post them shitty gifs showing them fukin slaps the only punch that really hurt miranda was the wild left hook because it hit him flush and miranda is smaller big whoop! at the best abraham has average power. Rant ended.

Comments (20)

Landshark

FUCK OFF LIMEY FUCK! Instead of posting on boxing scene all day shoud you not be at your dentist talking about how you gonna fix your fucked up teeth. Nothing but a dipshit you are you fucking cunt

17y ago

KingArthur

So Abraham? A relatively unknown Middleweight titleist, would be the first man to knock out Hopkins? Hopkins, the same guy who has never in his career been caught flush, or hurt in a fight in his entire career? Abraham would knock him the fuck out? Are you a professional retard or just a gifted amateur? hey f a g face, BHop is done, washed up, and never fought anyone with Arthurs or Pavliks power, and dont bring up Trinidad because Trinidad underestimated BHop (and to BHops credit he fought a VERY tactical fight). Now if you put a BHop in his PRIME and the Arthur of today, shit I'll be the first one to say BHop gets the decision. But NOW, at the age of 42, listen and understand what I'm trying to say and then open your ass :loser:

17y ago

xEDDIEx

Abraham would rape Pavlik and I said that a long time ago. your crazy. pavlik kills abraham

17y ago

sterling

fuck all u lot talkin shit about abraham i refuse to believe he can ko anyone with boxing ability if he knocks out pavlik il make a thread about it indeed and say i was wrong in till then suck my nutsack he isnt a p4p puncher.

17y ago

abadger

If Jermain Taylor punched you behind the ear like that and took your equilibrium , I'm pretty sure you'd react the same way too. But would B-Hop? Calzaghe?

17y ago

ringer

I agree with your theory when it comes to simply being dropped, case in point Joe Calzaghe, one of the best chins in boxing. However the manner that Pavlik got dropped by Taylor, I think sinking to his knees after the cumulative effects of a barrage and looking not that far from being KOd makes me think his chin is far from top of the line. You simply do not see this happening to guys like Hopkins, Margarito, Calzaghe. I'm not saying that Kelly has paper, but Abraham is a very hard puncher indeed, much harder than Taylor so I think an Abraham win by KO is really not that unlikely. If Jermain Taylor punched you behind the ear like that and took your equilibrium , I'm pretty sure you'd react the same way too.

17y ago

abadger

ok, so how many guys would have gotten up from that and finished the fight the way pavlik did? he took a ton of hard shots. most would have never gotten up. he got caught but good, and it's his own fault. but, he overcame it, whereas i don't see many others doing it. True. Credit to kelly for that.

17y ago

MELLYMEL

I agree with your theory when it comes to simply being dropped, case in point Joe Calzaghe, one of the best chins in boxing. However the manner that Pavlik got dropped by Taylor, I think sinking to his knees after the cumulative effects of a barrage and looking not that far from being KOd makes me think his chin is far from top of the line. You simply do not see this happening to guys like Hopkins, Margarito, Calzaghe. I'm not saying that Kelly has paper, but Abraham is a very hard puncher indeed, much harder than Taylor so I think an Abraham win by KO is really not that unlikely. ok, so how many guys would have gotten up from that and finished the fight the way pavlik did? he took a ton of hard shots. most would have never gotten up. he got caught but good, and it's his own fault. but, he overcame it, whereas i don't see many others doing it.

17y ago

abadger

Kelly's chin is fine. Just because you get dropped doesn't mean you have a bad chin. I can think of dozens of good fighters who got dropped against lesser opposition who had good chins. The whole idea that getting dropped equals a bad or "suspect" chin is total nonsense. I agree with your theory when it comes to simply being dropped, case in point Joe Calzaghe, one of the best chins in boxing. However the manner that Pavlik got dropped by Taylor, I think sinking to his knees after the cumulative effects of a barrage and looking not that far from being KOd makes me think his chin is far from top of the line. You simply do not see this happening to guys like Hopkins, Margarito, Calzaghe. I'm not saying that Kelly has paper, but Abraham is a very hard puncher indeed, much harder than Taylor so I think an Abraham win by KO is really not that unlikely.

17y ago

ringer

We'll see. I don't rate Taylor very highly at all, I think he is quite average, despite his wins over B-Hop, so I'm pretty sure Abraham would beat him. As for Abraham - Pavlik I can see it both ways. Kelly might very well just rain punches onto Abrahams high guard all night, sap his energy and get a late KO or decision, or Abraham might explode a bomb in Kelly's face. Kelly's chin isn't all that. If I had to pick I think I'd go with Abraham by KO, but thats not to say I couldn't be wrong and that it wouldn't be a competitive fight. Kelly's chin is fine. Just because you get dropped doesn't mean you have a bad chin. I can think of dozens of good fighters who got dropped against lesser opposition who had good chins. The whole idea that getting dropped equals a bad or "suspect" chin is total nonsense.

17y ago

abadger

I'm not over rating Kelly, or under rating Arthur. I've been watching both of them pretty avidly over the years. Kelly's flawed, Arthur's flawed. I just think that the way Kelly mixes his punches (working upstairs and downstairs equally, often in combination) is going to give Abraham hell. Abraham is a tough son of a gun, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the distance. But at the end of the day, Abraham isn't on the level that Kelly is. I doubt Abraham would've been able to beat Taylor twice. We'll see. I don't rate Taylor very highly at all, I think he is quite average, despite his wins over B-Hop, so I'm pretty sure Abraham would beat him. As for Abraham - Pavlik I can see it both ways. Kelly might very well just rain punches onto Abrahams high guard all night, sap his energy and get a late KO or decision, or Abraham might explode a bomb in Kelly's face. Kelly's chin isn't all that. If I had to pick I think I'd go with Abraham by KO, but thats not to say I couldn't be wrong and that it wouldn't be a competitive fight.

17y ago

Landshark

I'm not over rating Kelly, or under rating Arthur. I've been watching both of them pretty avidly over the years. Kelly's flawed, Arthur's flawed. I just think that the way Kelly mixes his punches (working upstairs and downstairs equally, often in combination) is going to give Abraham hell. Abraham is a tough son of a gun, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the distance. But at the end of the day, Abraham isn't on the level that Kelly is. I doubt Abraham would've been able to beat Taylor twice. What "level" are you talking about? Throwing more punches? I can agree with that, but who is usually more accurate? Usually AA is very accurate with harder punches, I just don't get why AA is so underrated and Pavlick overrated. I guess we are going to have to see!

17y ago

ringer

that AA doesn't get stopped, right? Yup. I believe 36 minutes is long enough for Kelly to get the job done. And if not, I'll pay up.

17y ago

ringer

You don't think you're overrating Kelly just a bit do you? The Abraham fight is not an easy one to call, and I agree Kelly's workrate could give him problems, but I really don't see how you can think Kelly is going to walk through this guy. I'm not over rating Kelly, or under rating Arthur. I've been watching both of them pretty avidly over the years. Kelly's flawed, Arthur's flawed. I just think that the way Kelly mixes his punches (working upstairs and downstairs equally, often in combination) is going to give Abraham hell. Abraham is a tough son of a gun, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the distance. But at the end of the day, Abraham isn't on the level that Kelly is. I doubt Abraham would've been able to beat Taylor twice.

17y ago

Landshark

Abraham has been ridiculed for TWO fucking years on these forums. Arthur comes and ktfo miranda. NOW we are going to have to listen how Pavlick is going to ko aa. The same Pavlick who was on ****** blvd by TAYLOR who lost to spinks(at least in my opnion) and somenone who could not hurt kassim ouma! KASSIM OUMA! :lol1::lol1: AA will be Pavlicks thoughest test, and in my opnion WILL get caught. The weird part about you pavlick nuthuggers here is: YOU NEVER ASK YOURSELVES HOW PAVLICK WILL REACT ONCE HE GET CAUGHT BY AA COUNTER HOOK OR STRAIGHT RIGHT HE DOES NOT SEE COMING! :boxing:

17y ago

abadger

I'm not going to talk about it anymore, mark my words. Quote it, do whatever you want with the post, it's going to happen. Abraham doesn't protect his body enough to hold off Kelly's attack. Kelly will walk through him within 8 rounds. End of discussion. You don't think you're overrating Kelly just a bit do you? The Abraham fight is not an easy one to call, and I agree Kelly's workrate could give him problems, but I really don't see how you can think Kelly is going to walk through this guy.

17y ago

ringer

Like I said I'll bet you half my points that AA doesn't get stopped. Pavlik hasn;t faced anybody who's got AA's toughness, defense, savvy and power. Well when the fight is official (meaning contracts signed) you know where to find me. I'll bet you for whatever your point total is at the time of the fight.

17y ago

MELLYMEL

It's fucking infuriating. I haven't been online here much at all this year, just sporadic posts. Now I get the chance to kick it here for a bit and this is the shit I find myself talking about. i know man.

17y ago

ringer

yet you're the one that kelly mopping th eflor with AA. I'm not going to talk about it anymore, mark my words. Quote it, do whatever you want with the post, it's going to happen. Abraham doesn't protect his body enough to hold off Kelly's attack. Kelly will walk through him within 8 rounds. End of discussion.

17y ago

ringer

don't even waste ur time with that alt B. fucking trolls are wrecking this spot. It's fucking infuriating. I haven't been online here much at all this year, just sporadic posts. Now I get the chance to kick it here for a bit and this is the shit I find myself talking about.

17y ago