Calzaghe wanted Pavlik... until he got him.

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Joe Calzaghe vs Pavlik would be a huge mismatch. Pavlik is a WHOLE class below Calzaghe, not an interesting fight. To be honest, Calzaghe should just retire, he's a proven fighter and if he quits, he'll end up TOP 5 in the H.O.F. Not top 5, he's a first ballot HOFer but no way is he top 5 P4P

Joe Calzaghe vs Pavlik would be a huge mismatch. Pavlik is a WHOLE class below Calzaghe, not an interesting fight. To be honest, Calzaghe should just retire, he's a proven fighter and if he quits, he'll end up TOP 5 in the H.O.F. Woah..... :alcoholic

So, you speak from experience, and that is how you feel? Boxing is like any other profession. Are garbage men scared to pick up garbage? Are bankers scared to bank? lol. You lost me. I'm not saying this in a bad way, but I think you just lost yourself. Boxing is unlike any other blue or white collar profession. Therefore, comparing boxers to banker and garbage men is a terrible analogy. Here's a quote from Joe Calzaghe himself on fighting Kessler. Kind of ironic that this is a calzaghe thread. " I want to fight another Lacy, I want to be in that zone again and prove myself against the best guys because I don't get psyched up unless I fight somebody that I fear." Joe Calzaghe, Countdown to Hopkins-Calzaghe.

Calzaghe has always wanted Jones and Warren was using Pavlik as leverage to get more more money from Roy. Warren almost cost Calzaghe the Jones fight and an estimated 20 million (for both), that's why Joe dropped Warren.

6:30 into this interview says it all. One thing we do know for certain is this: no amount of tangible evidence- be it from clear and direct statements made in a recorded interview, sworn testimony, notarized statements.....the word of God himself....etc.....none of this will ever be good enough to get some of these people to acknowledge that evidence as substantial enough to be considered "proof."

That is true, Calz stated several times he wanted to fight Pavlik, but he also said he wanted to fight Roy Jr.. To me, both are still in the running for Joe, it's a money thing and I don't rule out both fights happening before Joe retires.

What is bull crap??? The sentence with the bold font. No fighter who walks into the squared circle is scared of no man.

I have pointed out numerous times Joe expressed a desire to fight Pavlik BEFORE he fights Jones. I posted a video thread a while back, where you here the words straight from the horses mouth. Listen to Joe at 7:45 of this vid, where he is asked if he wants Jones, and says explicitly "I'm more interested in fighting Pavlik to be honest". This is before his shit performance against Hopkins of course, and the demolition of Gary Lockett. His tune has changed quite a bit, hasn't it? All the bullshit Enzo and Joe saying "Pavlik doesn't deserve the fight with Joe", gimme a fucking break. Two months ago they were all gung ho about a Pavlik fight, until they realized Joe can't even beat a 43 year old convincingly, and realized up close how good Pavlik really is... And they say, he is the #2 pound4pound fighter in the world? Some even say he is the #1?? Yet he is obviously afraid to fight Pavlik who is way below him in terms of the pound4pound category?

6:30 into this interview says it all.

I don't think Calzaghe is afraid at all.I just try to bait Calzaghe fans into pointless discussions about him ducking Pavlik.No fighter who walks into the squared circle is scared of no man.Floyd has all the tools to beat Cotto yet his fans call it ducking-Calzaghe has all the tools to beat Pavlik yet some call it ducking.This sport is messed up and the fans are even worse."He told him to pad his resume"This is comical coming from Calzaghe tho.Pavlik should ask him and warren for some tips.:nono: That my dear friend is bullshit.

AA doesn't need to fight Marquez. Pav should tell him, forget your mandatory, lets fight since you said my name. If he wants the belt he does... I agree with you... I think Abraham should say fuck the belt... I doubt he will.

On top of that, what about Abraham. I hope he doesn't think AA is beneath him. AA will crown his bald tall head. He hasn't said one word ever since AA challenged him. Well, AA can't fight him. He already put off his mandatory... now he has to fight Marquez. After that fight, something will be worked out for Pavlik/Abraham.

Another cry baby Pav fan who keeps looking past Abraham, and straight to 40Cal. You call him out, go to 175, don't ask for catch weight. Abraham wants a fight. He said your name. He wants Dlh too because Sturm was robbed in that fight. Fight Abraham with your tall bumper head! Pavlik should ABSOLUTELY fight Abraham... it already looks like Abraham is on his way to carving out the type of career Calzaghe should have ten years ago.

Why is Pavlick at 26 years of age going after Old Man Calzaghe anyway! Calzaghe wins handsdown and I wouldnt be surprised if this fight happens even though Joe says he's only got one fight left. Pavlick should have been after this fight when Joe had just defeated Lacy he was obviously ducking Joe by staying at middleweight instead of moving up a division. How about Kessler Vs Pavlick with the winner getting Calzaghe in his final match in the Millenium stadium with joe fighting Jones somewhere in Vegas as a tune up. Kessler beats Pavlick by the way Money Talks and Bullshit Walks.

You think that beating Gary Lockett is any kind of reason for Calzaghe to be afraid of Pavlik? Okay. Chad Dawson has faster hands and feet than Calzaghe and is the bigger man. Easily the toughest fight Calzaghe could take. I'm cool with Calzaghe fighting Dawson instead of Pavlik... as long as he's fighting someone with a pulse... Calzaghe fighting RJJ is a joke.

You think that beating Gary Lockett is any kind of reason for Calzaghe to be afraid of Pavlik? Okay. Chad Dawson has faster hands and feet than Calzaghe and is the bigger man. Easily the toughest fight Calzaghe could take. No... I didn't said that. I would find hard to believe, actually... What I actually believe is that Calzaghe never thought Pavlik would fight him... and when Pavlik tried to get the fight he had to back off cuz in his mind the Jones fight presents a better risk/reward. I just don't want to hear that Calzaghe is fighting Jones because Jones is the BIGGER challenge. That is nonsense.

Ok... let me ask this... and I don't know the answer to this... WHy was it, that before Pavlik fought Lockett, Calzaghe was talking up a fight with Pavlik and after the fight his dad is saying "IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN"? Seems to be an odd complete reversal... doesn't it? I'm not saying he would lose to Pavlik... I am saying that in his mind RJJ is a lower risk and probably a higher reward. Second... Chad Dawson? Really? I think Calzaghe would abuse him. Is Pavlik one-dimensional? maybe. But, although a one-two fighter IS one dimensional.... if he executes properly he is ALSO unstoppable. You think that beating Gary Lockett is any kind of reason for Calzaghe to be afraid of Pavlik? Okay. Chad Dawson has faster hands and feet than Calzaghe and is the bigger man. Easily the toughest fight Calzaghe could take.

LMFAO!!!!!! listen to you restards, wat are you guys like 10? Who da fuk is lockett???? no1 in britain even knows who tha fuck he is, and you guys are acting like pavlik has achieved something. I read a great article about joe regarding this subject on ESboxing just yesterday. Im probably only going to use their forums from now on. As much as i love the main boxingscene site, this forum is full of complete morons who are only good for one thing... laughing at :D Face it, at present NORTH American boxing is in a sorry state. Perhaps you guys should should start aiming your assaults a little closer to home. seriously though, i really think some of you guys would be better suited as MMA fans kuz you know fuk all about the sweet science. Kessler>>Abraham>>Pavlik Look, I'm not on here picking on European boxing. I will say this though. Your media is far more partial to boxers in your respective countries than ours is. And I'm not saying you don't see that, you probably do. As for "Kessler>>Abraham>>Pavlik" that could certainly be true. I just wish Calzaghe had fought the fights that would make me sure of that. It looks like Abraham will.

Are the retards moaning again?? "When will Calzaghe fight Kessler? he's ducking Kessler" "When will Calzaghe come over to the states and fight Hopkins, he's ducking Hopkins" "When will Calzaghe fight Roy Jones??" he's fighting Roy Jones "When will Calzaghe fight Pavlik" For fucks sake, what's next..who else do you want Calzaghe to fight? because it doesn't matter who's on your little bitch lists.......the outcome is always the same....they lose.