Whose got the better Resume?
I ask because, in my honest opinion, Floyd has a better resume than Joe... YET... because Floyd is retiring, people wont place him near the top because he has a weak resume... which i dont really have a problem with...
But I think Floyds resume is stronger than Joe's... Yet Joe will be celebrated with his retirement, and resume... but not Floyd?
I sense Dirk is ready to explode at any moment...he's showing signs of going back to his old self as he cracks from the pressure of having to talk BOXING lol--no doubt, he'll find a way to bring nationality back into this:
Well.......i shouldve known it was a waste of time trying to have a sensible debate with you.
A prime example right here lol.
Hopkins flat out ducked Calzaghe. Move on.
Since this is completely immaterial (and obviously what you'd rather talk about), let's move on LIKE YOU SAY.
I hate to say it but you have no idea what you're talking about. Fighters dont have to sell PPVs to be popular - look at Pavlik, what has he drawn? But Id say he was popular.
Kelly Pavlik is a hundred times more popular than Corrales was at the time he fought Mayweather...what are you talking about? Pavlik has sold pay-per-views and fought in front of sellouts at Atlantic City. Ok, here's a better question: what makes you say Corrales was popular at the time he fought Mayweather? Hehe...here's your chance to show that you were watching back then and know what you're talking about (But I think you'll duck this question or risk the truth embarrassing you).
I was also looking at it from a comparison to Kessler who is a European fighter that most people wont have seen much of hence less popular than Corrales. :lol1: at you waiting to jump on any little thing I say to tell me I didnt watch boxing. I hate to say it but you clearly show you're not the sharpest knife.
Actually you just proved me right again because Corrales was as popular in the US back then as Kessler is in the US right NOW - if not less!!! You've got me chuckling over here. The Corrales-Mayweather fight was attended by less than 3000 people, I believe. Listen dude, I know you want to say that Corrales was ranked that high because he was popular but it's just not true. Get over it.
If we're looking at it from a perspective from when Calzaghe and Mayweather each fought them, theres no one who is "leagues ahead". Both were undefeated young champions.
That's one simplistic way to look at it. I guess Lacy and Kessler are the same level because they were undefeated ;). So are Kessler and Berto hehe. Come on, there's a reason why Corrales was ranked in the top five pound for pound and Kessler...was not. Of course, you'd have to delve into their resumes and know what you're talking about without poring over boxrec. Good luck with that.
You ask who Corrales was supposed to face? Who was Kessler supposed to face? He'd won two titles and got beat when he stepped up.........just like Corrales did. Neither had "elite" wins. Period.
True. Neither had elite wins. But one had several solid ones in succession...actually, wins that were leaps and bounds above anything Kessler did. Which is why one was so highly ranked and the other wasn't AS high. And not just by US boxing magazines either (I work for a highly-respected UK mag that felt the same way). So whether you like it or not, Corrales was and is rated worlds better than Kessler. End of story. Trying to rewrite history won't change that.
Yes Stuart, your insecurities are funny as fuck.
No actually whats funny is that you think thats insulting. You're really hittin me where it hurts mate. :lol1:
Stuart when you say anything about boxing that isn't either a troll or not completely retarded or biased with national ball swinging, maybe others will talk about boxing with you. Don''t worry Mr. Little, we're all laughing at you until then.
Now cry some more about how no one cares about White Welsh guys. Insecure idiot.
Its funny, everyone talks boxing until you enter the thread.
Stuart Little?? Funny as fuck :lol1:
Stuart, why are you having pederast style fantasies again? Just because you LOOK like a 12 year old, doesn't mean your 30 year old virgin ass should touch them. Shame on you.
You're the one who brought up pregnant 15 year olds....on a boxing forum
Hmmmm, and where did he fight them you fucking clown? Exactly, now shut the fuck up. American fans watch who is worth watching. If you take that as ignorance because they haven't seen or choose not to watch, your boy JC, then cry a fucking river. Point being, he fights "over there" until recently.
You said he was fighting the best we had. Do fighters turn British when they come here? Didnt realise that.
I call it ignorance cos boxing fans.......i.e not you........know who undefeated, long reigning world champions are........regardless of where they're from or where they fight.
Like I told you. He fought over here until someone finally decided to accept his challenge over there.
He was willing to but no one wanted to fight him.
Didnt realise Lacy was British. Or Kessler? Or Brewer? Or Mitchell? The best we have to offer?
And i apologise that you think all American fans are as clearly ignorant as you. Its quite sad.
JC CHOSE to fight Hopkins. Hopkins CHOSE to back out.
Hmmmm, and where did he fight them you fucking clown? Exactly, now shut the fuck up. American fans watch who is worth watching. If you take that as ignorance because they haven't seen or choose not to watch, your boy JC, then cry a fucking river. Point being, he fights "over there" until recently.
LMAO so what the fuck did you mean he WAS WILLING as in before he JUST STARTED TO? JC hid out in his backyard his whole God damn career. He has done an elite job in his division and among the best YOU GUYS OVER THERE have to muster up. He has NOT, however, shown the heart to fly over here and take on OUR elite in THEIR backyards. That, Mr. Douchebag, is why JC will NEVER be respected by American fans - hell, most don't even know who he is. The only reason he may START to get American public recognition, LMAO, is because he is fighting Roy Jones Jr. - whom a vast majority know. (Also, credit goes to BHop too) So, I know you will ramble on and on about some vague biased explanation, but JC CHOSE to stay home and now wants to act like he doesn't deserve to be looked at as underrated. Sigh, gimme a God damn break son.
He was willing to but no one wanted to fight him.
Didnt realise Lacy was British. Or Kessler? Or Brewer? Or Mitchell? The best we have to offer?
And i apologise that you think all American fans are as clearly ignorant as you. Its quite sad.
JC CHOSE to fight Hopkins. Hopkins CHOSE to back out.
Who said anybody had to come to Wales? You're losing it mate. Im well aware Joe just came to America. Hopkins' balls finally dropped low enough to accept the fight.
LMAO so what the fuck did you mean he WAS WILLING as in before he JUST STARTED TO? JC hid out in his backyard his whole God damn career. He has done an elite job in his division and among the best YOU GUYS OVER THERE have to muster up. He has NOT, however, shown the heart to fly over here and take on OUR elite in THEIR backyards. That, Mr. Douchebag, is why JC will NEVER be respected by American fans - hell, most don't even know who he is. The only reason he may START to get American public recognition, LMAO, is because he is fighting Roy Jones Jr. - whom a vast majority know. (Also, credit goes to BHop too) So, I know you will ramble on and on about some vague biased explanation, but JC CHOSE to stay home and now wants to act like he doesn't deserve to be looked at as underrated. Sigh, gimme a God damn break son.
Lmao, now THAT is funny. Willing to fight in America? LMMFAO - just shut the fuck up. Nobody needed to go to Wales and fight Joe fucking Calzaghe, Joe Calzaghe needed to come to America and show the American public what he is or isn't made of to make a REAL name for himself. JC JUST RECENTLY, came to America you fucking half brain. Now please proceed to shut the fuck up once again.
Who said anybody had to come to Wales? You're losing it mate. Im well aware Joe just came to America. Hopkins' balls finally dropped low enough to accept the fight.
Funny as fuck. :lol1:
Calzaghe was willing to fight in America...........no one was willing to be in the other corner.
Lmao, now THAT is funny. Willing to fight in America? LMMFAO - just shut the fuck up. Nobody needed to go to Wales and fight Joe fucking Calzaghe, Joe Calzaghe needed to come to America and show the American public what he is or isn't made of to make a REAL name for himself. JC JUST RECENTLY, came to America you fucking half brain. Now please proceed to shut the fuck up once again.
Insecure little short man queer. As you've proven time and time again. Hey Jealousy, it's a bitch ain't it.
The ugly reality of: you never having boxed, you being a jealous bitch, you lying about quotes, you being an insecure dickhead. Yup, all ugly realities.
Now go cry about how everyone hates White Welsh guys you insecure bitch.
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Lol, then tell his stupid ass to get on a plain! Why wouldn't you come to where boxing lives, and more importantly, the money is? Why sit at home and fight in your backyard all day then cry about being underrated? Oh, my bad, forgot who we were talking about for a minute.
Funny as fuck. :lol1:
Calzaghe was willing to fight in America...........no one was willing to be in the other corner.
He's such a biased little bitch it's amazing. Everyone ducked Joe according to this chode.
And everything is "I believe Kessler will be a great fighter". Of course that's his only response when faced with the ugly reality of Kessler's shit resume.
:lol1: at you following me everywhere I go. Might as well give you a leash......since I own you and all.
I believe Kessler will be a great fighter. Thats an opinion. Remember what we discussed about respecting others opinions.
The topic was Kessler vs Corrales. If Kessler's resume was shit.........what was Corrales at the time he faced Mayweather. Neither guy had any elite names.
When you're confronted with the ugly reality of actually having to debate boxing, your arsehole caves in.
No one really cares about white welsh fighters - sad but true. And Joe's inability to secure a big fight for years whilst fighting in a mediocre division has held him down.
Lol, then tell his stupid ass to get on a plain! Why wouldn't you come to where boxing lives, and more importantly, the money is? Why sit at home and fight in your backyard all day then cry about being underrated? Oh, my bad, forgot who we were talking about for a minute.
Diego Corrales, JLC, Ricky Hatton, ODLH, Zab Judah, Arturo Gatti, Jesus Chavez, Genaro Hernandez
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Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, Reid
How is this even a debate?
Well.......i shouldve known it was a waste of time trying to have a sensible debate with you.
Hopkins flat out ducked Calzaghe. Move on.
I hate to say it but you have no idea what you're talking about. Fighters dont have to sell PPVs to be popular - look at Pavlik, what has he drawn? But Id say he was popular. I was also looking at it from a comparison to Kessler who is a European fighter that most people wont have seen much of hence less popular than Corrales. :lol1: at you waiting to jump on any little thing I say to tell me I didnt watch boxing. I hate to say it but you clearly show you're not the sharpest knife.
If we're looking at it from a perspective from when Calzaghe and Mayweather each fought them, theres no one who is "leagues ahead". Both were undefeated young champions. You ask who Corrales was supposed to face? Who was Kessler supposed to face? He'd won two titles and got beat when he stepped up.........just like Corrales did. Neither had "elite" wins. Period.
You do not know boxing.
Whether it was his fault, their fault or fate's fault, the fights did not happen. Move on.
Two things: Corrales was NOT a popular fighter at all at that point. In fact, Mayweather was more popular and, back then, he couldn't draw flies to shit. I hate to say it but you show that you weren't following boxing back then. Who exactly should he have fought that he didn't? His high ranking was well-deserved at the time.
Until Kessler proves that, Corrales is leagues ahead. Period.
Well.......i shouldve known it was a waste of time trying to have a sensible debate with you.
Hopkins flat out ducked Calzaghe. Move on.
I hate to say it but you have no idea what you're talking about. Fighters dont have to sell PPVs to be popular - look at Pavlik, what has he drawn? But Id say he was popular. I was also looking at it from a comparison to Kessler who is a European fighter that most people wont have seen much of hence less popular than Corrales. :lol1: at you waiting to jump on any little thing I say to tell me I didnt watch boxing. I hate to say it but you clearly show you're not the sharpest knife.
If we're looking at it from a perspective from when Calzaghe and Mayweather each fought them, theres no one who is "leagues ahead". Both were undefeated young champions. You ask who Corrales was supposed to face? Who was Kessler supposed to face? He'd won two titles and got beat when he stepped up.........just like Corrales did. Neither had "elite" wins. Period.
Its the fault of those who avoided him.......
Whether it was his fault, their fault or fate's fault, the fights did not happen. Move on.
Corrales hadnt beat an elite fighter prior to Mayweather and I would suggest he was so highly ranked because of his popularity and KO ratio.
Two things: Corrales was NOT a popular fighter at all at that point. In fact, Mayweather was more popular and, back then, he couldn't draw flies to shit. I hate to say it but you show that you weren't following boxing back then. Who exactly should he have fought that he didn't? His high ranking was well-deserved at the time.
He went on to prove he was a great fighter which I believe Kessler will too.
Until Kessler proves that, Corrales is leagues ahead. Period.