Most people have the general idea that Wladimir Klitschko is the best current heavyweight that we have, good or bad.
He's the best in terms of skills, and has the 'biggest name' in America, in terms of heavyweights who still could amount to something, regardless of if that's the greatest accomplishment.
My question is, who do you think out of the young heavyweights, the up and comers or even some of the older guys, can beat Wladimir Klitschko. Not who WOULD if they fought, though that does factor in, but who COULD aswell.
Vote. Discuss.
NOTE: I messed up on the poll, so just pick the person you think has the BEST CHANCE at beating Klitschko.
I don't know about Tye Fields, but I think Haye's worth a mention in these threads, Haye himself has said he's prepared to fight 2 heavyweight fighters before Klitschko.
Peters improved a lot too, he destroyed Maskaev. Peter would prove a real handful for Klitschko, and I don't think anyone can argue that..
He's demonstrated little in the way of boxing skills, and is 33. He's no way proved himself as a boxer worthy of top 10, let alone top 5, let alone 2nd likely to beat the #1.
First of all, he's first in terms of who people think can beat him.
Second of all, if they fight.... Wladimir Klitschko.. no longer, will be alive.... anymore.
By that same logic, once a GREAT fighters debuts you could say he should have no backing for being a TRUE world champion by fans or critics, since he hasn't proven that he deserves it. However, as you know, that's not how it works. Eventually, someone comes along who WILL beat the odds and be a champion. A big number of people, perhaps, happen to think that man is Tye Fields. And they are RIGHT.
Tye Fields, 2008 and beyond.
He's demonstrated little in the way of boxing skills, and is 33. He's no way proved himself as a boxer worthy of top 10, let alone top 5, let alone 2nd likely to beat the #1.
Ok, Tye Fields whom is at best like 26 in the HW rankings, aged 33, is 2nd in the poll to beat the unified champion #1 Wlad? No one else inside the top 20 is more deserving of the 2nd spot to beat Wlad?
Seriously, a new level of delusion, astonishing.
By that same logic, once a GREAT fighters debuts you could say he should have no backing for being a TRUE world champion by fans or critics, since he hasn't proven that he deserves it. However, as you know, that's not how it works. Eventually, someone comes along who WILL beat the odds and be a champion. A big number of people, perhaps, happen to think that man is Tye Fields. And they are RIGHT.
Tye Fields, 2008 and beyond.
Ok, Tye Fields whom is at best like 26 in the HW rankings, aged 33, is 2nd in the poll to beat the unified champion #1 Wlad? No one else inside the top 20 is more deserving of the 2nd spot to beat Wlad?
Seriously, a new level of delusion, astonishing.
I'd personally like to see a Peter VS Klistchko rematch with the belts on the line. It wouldn't be the same fight as before. It suprises me how many people are convinced of Wlad.. Sam Peter and Haye would give him BIG problems..
...If big V is healthy enough to fight Peter then that will be the end of Sam "I am not the man" Peter. Haye has to actually fight a heavyweight of consequence before his name should even be mentioned in these threads.
I'd personally like to see a Peter VS Klistchko rematch with the belts on the line. It wouldn't be the same fight as before. It suprises me how many people are convinced of Wlad.. Sam Peter and Haye would give him BIG problems..
Unified isn't undisputed, which is all that matters.
I never said he was undisputed....He is the unified heavyweight champ....He may not officially be undisputed yet, but everyone knows Wladimir Klitschko is the #1 heavyweight in the world, hands down.
Peter would give Klitschko problems, he had Klistchko down three times when he was sluggish, but he's improved now especially after beating Maskaev to become World champion.
I think Haye could also beat Klitschko, he's very hungry and disciplined, and because of his speed he will force Klitschko to actually box, unlike what Ibragimov did..
Wlad is the unified champ....when you have won 2 championship belts from major organizations (IBF and WBO) that means you have unified. :duh:
Unified isn't undisputed, which is all that matters.
....No mention of Tony Thompson huh? Anyway, I'm hoping I'm right in assuming Wlady won't lose for a long long time. His biggest problem is that he has no foil. If Wlad ever rematches Peter I will bet all my points and my boxingscene existence that Wlady not only wins but knocks Peter out.
Might happen, wont mean he's unbeatable.
Nonetheless, I didn't mention Thompson because we'll find that out soon enough.
....No mention of Tony Thompson huh? Anyway, I'm hoping I'm right in assuming Wlady won't lose for a long long time. His biggest problem is that he has no foil. If Wlad ever rematches Peter I will bet all my points and my boxingscene existence that Wlady not only wins but knocks Peter out.
Wladimir is not the unified champion. Plenty of titles still floating around that he doesn't have. It's still disputed.
Furthermore, cruiserweight isn't the weakest division now and it's not historically known as the weakest division either. When you go this far out of your way to discredit someone who even SEEMS to threaten your precious Wladimir Klitschko, it takes away from any argument you may or may not have.
Wlad is the unified champ....when you have won 2 championship belts from major organizations (IBF and WBO) that means you have unified. :duh:
Wlad is the unified heavyweight champ and his resume is 100 times better than hypejob Haye's.....Who the hell has Haye beat??.....Mormeck and Macca are total bums and cruiserweight IS and has always been the shittiest division in boxing.
Wladimir is not the unified champion. Plenty of titles still floating around that he doesn't have. It's still disputed.
Furthermore, cruiserweight isn't the weakest division now and it's not historically known as the weakest division either. When you go this far out of your way to discredit someone who even SEEMS to threaten your precious Wladimir Klitschko, it takes away from any argument you may or may not have.