Why Dont the HARDCORE fans Appreciate the CASUAL Fans...???

The problem is with you so called HARDCORE fans, is that you dont Appreciate The casual Fans It used to be that people who love fighting... Would become Boxers....or watch boxing Therefore The Sport of boxing would always have a continue flow of willing fighters....and Casual Fans Those Days are over... Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... When there is MMA, WWE, ELITE, CAGE, AND NOW STREET FIGHTING.... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined That's the Problem WITH BOXING RIGHT NOW...It needs well known Fighters like Mayweather and De La Hoya fighting each other...To keep Boxing in the Mainstream....because without them...or somebody coming up just like them... Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... Boxing Needs the Casual Fans. Therefore Boxing Needed the De la Hoya vs. Mayweather fight Listen To These to CasUal Fans Talking About Boxing.. WATCH FROM 4:00-5:59 :boobies: *bump*

i'm not big on casual fans because they get catered to when it comes to making fights, their large numbers sway match making decision and opponent choices that fighters take, where as real boxing hardcore fans have to wait until certain matches are made due to certain issues or circumstances, and we don't get the fights that we want all the time and we don't always get the fights that should be made. casual fans because of their numbers tip the scales of what is supposedly wanted by the public, when in actuality they don't know shit and it just pisses us hardcore fans off. casual fans are improtant, it just sucks they get more of a say or more of what they want verses us who actually love the sport dearly and support it..........

The problem is with you so called HARDCORE fans, is that you dont Appreciate The casual Fans It used to be that people who love fighting... Would become Boxers....or watch boxing Therefore The Sport of boxing would always have a continue flow of willing fighters....and Casual Fans Those Days are over... Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... When there is MMA, WWE, ELITE, CAGE, AND NOW STREET FIGHTING.... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined That's the Problem WITH BOXING RIGHT NOW...It needs well known Fighters like Mayweather and De La Hoya fighting each other...To keep Boxing in the Mainstream....because without them...or somebody coming up just like them... Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... Boxing Needs the Casual Fans. Therefore Boxing Needed the De la Hoya vs. Mayweather fight Listen To These to CasUal Fans Talking About Boxing.. WATCH FROM 4:00-5:59 One of the reasons many casual fans are not appreciated is because they pretend to have the knowledge of a harcore fan.

The problem is with you so called HARDCORE fans, is that you dont Appreciate The casual Fans It used to be that people who love fighting... Would become Boxers....or watch boxing Therefore The Sport of boxing would always have a continue flow of willing fighters....and Casual Fans Those Days are over... Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... When there is MMA, WWE, ELITE, CAGE, AND NOW STREET FIGHTING.... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined That's the Problem WITH BOXING RIGHT NOW...It needs well known Fighters like Mayweather and De La Hoya fighting each other...To keep Boxing in the Mainstream....because without them...or somebody coming up just like them... Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... Boxing Needs the Casual Fans. Therefore Boxing Needed the De la Hoya vs. Mayweather fight Listen To These to CasUal Fans Talking About Boxing.. WATCH FROM 4:00-5:59 *BUMP* :cop: Uniting Hardcore Fans and Casual Fans

You are missing the point. Totally. When you see Sin City and C'monmang missing the point, that means everyone else is getting the point. that is how it usually is though...

Speaking as someone from the UK, that is absolutely crazy to me. I can barely even believe that MMA is a serious rival to boxing over there, because over here although it has its fans it is probably closer to being banned than it is to gaining any kind of mainstream acceptance. If I was you I would kind of worry about it too. I think probably what MMA does well that boxing does not is market itself to the white wannabe hip-hop crowd and metal crowd. From what I've seen it appears to be positioned kind of like skateboarding and extreme sports are: as "cool". Boxing I think sees and promotes itself very much more as a "sport", and I think also that it is actually not so easy to appreciate for these type of kids because it requires some degree of knowledge to be appreciated properly and does not offer the instant gratification hit of violence that MMA does, and that what these kids are looking for. However, boxing has been around for a much longer time and has a huge history and tradition to back it up. 20 years from now, unless the world has gone crazy, the general public will still know the names "Roy Jones" and "Floyd Mayweather" but I would be very surprised if many people at all will recall "Kimbo Slice" and "Chuck Liddell", because their names will not be part of a richly remembered history in the same way that the greatest boxers names are. I agree, using the rising combat sport doesn't accurately mark the casual boxing or fight fan. Casual fans of boxing are SPORTS fans that watch ESPN and Fox Sports and team sports of all kinds, not just sports where two men or women are fighting. In fact, MMA fans are MUCH MORE likely to know boxers than the casual fans. The fact that a couple MMA fighters have got their names on the tongues of a few SPORTS fans doesn't mean that it's MMA taking over boxing. When the NHL Finals went to game 6, there were guys I know tuning in just because it was a big time sports event - even though they weren't hockey fans. The casual sports fan will tune into a boxing bout they 1) have access to (no PPV) and 2) deem worth the sports viewer's time. That's why they tuned into Kimbo - it was in the news, and it was free.

Actually I think part of your post was in German... (read word for word) Your posts always have fucked up grammar and bad spelling. I feel like I need some kind of decoder when reading stuff like this. I'm sorry if I offended you but it's not that hard to type complete sentences (most people do). Oh i am never offended just amused..IMO, your Opinion is a opinion. Plus I understand that you have always been a critic of mines so i dont expect that to change soon, so i realize the certainty of disapproval I will recieve in all of your posts and move on..

So what dont u understand.? Should I rewrite the post in german..? Actually I think part of your post was in German... (read word for word) Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when Your posts always have fucked up grammar and bad spelling. I feel like I need some kind of decoder when reading stuff like this. I'm sorry if I offended you but it's not that hard to type complete sentences (most people do).

I noticed you were having some problems with the English language. Hopefully this quote helps (errors in bold)... So what dont u understand.? Should I rewrite the post in german..? This is not a English Essay, So i am not looking for perfection in grammar, this is on-line discussion thread. I think you should look for perfections in grammar or spelling somewhere else because BOXINGSCENE.COM is not the site your pet peeves for grammar and spelling

there isnt a page 3 ?????? Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... I noticed you were having some problems with the English language. Hopefully this quote helps (errors in bold)...

Why post if you do not even understand the point of the thread.. STOP FLAMING UP THE THREADS... I didn't even read what you wrote :lol1: not worth the time..

I thought I understood your thread but some of it got lost in translation... (see page 3, last post) there isnt a page 3 ??????

Why post if you do not even understand the point of the thread.. STOP FLAMING UP THE THREADS... I thought I understood your thread but some of it got lost in translation... (see page 3, last post)

LOL @ Horus claiming people don't appreciate casual fans but casual fans like to see knock outs and action.. he disses the same casual fans for not liking Mayweathers style and not carring for the technical aspect of boxing.. but he wants to appreciate them?? lolzz Why post if you do not even understand the point of the thread.. STOP FLAMING UP THE THREADS...

Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... I noticed you were having some problems with the English language. Hopefully this quote helps (errors in bold)...

LOL @ Horus claiming people don't appreciate casual fans but casual fans like to see knock outs and action.. he disses the same casual fans for not liking Mayweathers style and not carring for the technical aspect of boxing.. but he wants to appreciate them?? lolzz

The problem is with you so called HARDCORE fans, is that you dont Appreciate The casual Fans It used to be that people who love fighting... Would become Boxers....or watch boxing Therefore The Sport of boxing would always have a continue flow of willing fighters....and Casual Fans Those Days are over... Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... When there is MMA, WWE, ELITE, CAGE, AND NOW STREET FIGHTING.... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined That's the Problem WITH BOXING RIGHT NOW...It needs well known Fighters like Mayweather and De La Hoya fighting each other...To keep Boxing in the Mainstream....because without them...or somebody coming up just like them... Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... Boxing Needs the Casual Fans. Therefore Boxing Needed the De la Hoya vs. Mayweather fight Listen To These to CasUal Fans Talking About Boxing.. WATCH FROM 4:00-5:59 *BUMP*:grouphug:

Speaking as someone from the UK, that is absolutely crazy to me. I can barely even believe that MMA is a serious rival to boxing over there, because over here although it has its fans it is probably closer to being banned than it is to gaining any kind of mainstream acceptance. If I was you I would kind of worry about it too. I think probably what MMA does well that boxing does not is market itself to the white wannabe hip-hop crowd and metal crowd. From what I've seen it appears to be positioned kind of like skateboarding and extreme sports are: as "cool". Boxing I think sees and promotes itself very much more as a "sport", and I think also that it is actually not so easy to appreciate for these type of kids because it requires some degree of knowledge to be appreciated properly and does not offer the instant gratification hit of violence that MMA does, and that what these kids are looking for. However, boxing has been around for a much longer time and has a huge history and tradition to back it up. 20 years from now, unless the world has gone crazy, the general public will still know the names "Roy Jones" and "Floyd Mayweather" but I would be very surprised if many people at all will recall "Kimbo Slice" and "Chuck Liddell", because their names will not be part of a richly remembered history in the same way that the greatest boxers names are. Good post.

The problem is with you so called HARDCORE fans, is that you dont Appreciate The casual Fans It used to be that people who love fighting... Would become Boxers....or watch boxing Therefore The Sport of boxing would always have a continue flow of willing fighters....and Casual Fans Those Days are over... Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... When there is MMA, WWE, ELITE, CAGE, AND NOW STREET FIGHTING.... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined That's the Problem WITH BOXING RIGHT NOW...It needs well known Fighters like Mayweather and De La Hoya fighting each other...To keep Boxing in the Mainstream....because without them...or somebody coming up just like them... Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... Boxing Needs the Casual Fans. Therefore Boxing Needed the De la Hoya vs. Mayweather fight Listen To These to CasUal Fans Talking About Boxing.. WATCH FROM 4:00-5:59 The point of this thread, is that Hardcore fans need to realize the importance of the casual fan, and how boxing needs to do something quick to reclaim the spotlight back from MMA..

The problem is with you so called HARDCORE fans, is that you dont Appreciate The casual Fans It used to be that people who love fighting... Would become Boxers....or watch boxing Therefore The Sport of boxing would always have a continue flow of willing fighters....and Casual Fans Those Days are over... Fighters dont need boxing to become a famous fighter ANYMORE and niether does the CASUAL FAN... When there is MMA, WWE, ELITE, CAGE, AND NOW STREET FIGHTING.... Boxing never before had competition like this before..Now its does ... and you can see it when More people know Chuck Liddel then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined More People Know Kimbo Slice then Miguel Cotto and Margarito Combined That's the Problem WITH BOXING RIGHT NOW...It needs well known Fighters like Mayweather and De La Hoya fighting each other...To keep Boxing in the Mainstream....because without them...or somebody coming up just like them... Boxing is in serious Jeopardy to be Replace in the spotlight by these other sports.... Just ask the causal fan who they recognized more Chuck Lidell and Kimbo Slice or Miguel Cotto and Joe Calzaghe... Boxing Needs the Casual Fans. Therefore Boxing Needed the De la Hoya vs. Mayweather fight Listen To These to CasUal Fans Talking About Boxing.. WATCH FROM 4:00-5:59 The point of this thread, is that Hardcore fans need to realize the importance of the casual fan, and how boxing needs o do something quick to reclaim the spotlight back from MMA..