R.i.P Joe Calzaghe: 1993-2007, 45-1

LOGIC? The smart money is on RJJ. Logic always prevails over wishful thinking.

I think you all seem to be forgetting the RRJ of "now" and the RRJ of "then". Two completely different fighters. Calzaghe UD 12. Seems a lot of you are still living in the RJJ wonder years. Nice prediction Mojack, spoton! :D

Another thread? I didn't know there was even one. I also don't know who you are, but feel free to keep track of my history if it makes you feel better......:kiss: The queer aint beating RJJ. BUMP!!! Another diabolical predication by Vladimir303, I told you this would come back to haunt you ;).

Something that could very well happen as well..

Calzaghe is digging himself in a hole. If he loses to Jones he will have no credability whatsoever.

Oh give it a rest about pavlic man lol no disrespect but its like the yanks just hold on to something new praying his the one if it wasnt Pavlic it would be someone else theres always someone out there to fight fact is a lot of you just cant fuckin disgest the fact that Joe Calzaghe is the man and will ride off into the sunset has such. Just deal with it and move on......

It seems Calzaghe whenever he gets hit BIG like the Kessler fight where he got hit with an uppercut in the 3rd makes him change. Calzaghe adjusts his game when he realises he's doing badly, he said in the Ross interview when he got hit by Kessler in the 3rd he said that what he was doing wasn't working and he had to switch up, he said it for the Hopkins fight too and he does. He switches up his game and fight differently he doesn't have a gameplan he just adjusts to his situation. That's what allows him to win, he can change from Inside fighter (lacy), Boxer-Puncher (Kessler) or Completely unorthadox (Hopkins)

on the real fellas, who has calzage fought really. I'm not dissing the man just stating the facts. Kessler, one dimensional, lacey, the same and joe hit him with everything and still didn't ko him. hop and looked amaturish, personly i thought hop won by a round. No way he ko's roy. He has a lil pop but not much. As far as roy not koing tito, look tito is a hof legend so is roy, why and the end of both of their careers would roy want to really hurt tito. Not making excuses, just my observation. roy slowed down on him in the late rounds, personlly i would do the same thing, it called respecting another legend. is this game really worth hurting another hofb, when ur winning....no As far as tarver and johnson, the weight fucked roy up, look how tarver was against hop. Not and excuse just facts. Just for the fuck of it, i think hanshaw would have beat joe. no way joe is even top 10 p4p, he fought no comp.

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Calzaghe handed Kessler a boxing lesson. If he was flustered he did a good job of hiding it by turning in a career best performance. I wish I responded to pressure like that. I'm sure RJJ will be able to hit Joe, this is boxing, but his problem will be that he doesn't have the stamina to throw that many punches, so ultimately he'll hit Joe much less than Kessler did. He also can't move very fast so will be struggling to find the positioning to unload his best shots on Calzaghe. Tito Trinidad was washed up himself, and had his best years as a fighter at WW. He never really convinced at MW and he fought Roy at LHW! He was brought in specifically as the biggest name that Roy could definitely beat, but that matchup had nothing to do with competitive boxing. ...actually I think Kessler showed what Calzaghe was all about...hit him and he doesn't like it...but for whatever reason, being tired is what it looked like, he stopped hitting Calzaghe...no matter who you fight, if you stop hitting them and they continue to hit you, you will loose...and Kessler stopped hitting Calzaghe...

...I've always liked Calzaghe...until I was listening to him and his corner in the Kessler fight...sounded bad imo...if Kessler didn't get tired and blow the fight...he had Calzaghe's number but for whatever reason let Calzaghe go and win the fight...if you can hit Calzaghe he get's flustered...and if RJJ can hit him I think he's got a good chance of beating Calzaghe...is RJJ shot?...Tito thought so... Calzaghe handed Kessler a boxing lesson. If he was flustered he did a good job of hiding it by turning in a career best performance. I wish I responded to pressure like that. I'm sure RJJ will be able to hit Joe, this is boxing, but his problem will be that he doesn't have the stamina to throw that many punches, so ultimately he'll hit Joe much less than Kessler did. He also can't move very fast so will be struggling to find the positioning to unload his best shots on Calzaghe. Tito Trinidad was washed up himself, and had his best years as a fighter at WW. He never really convinced at MW and he fought Roy at LHW! He was brought in specifically as the biggest name that Roy could definitely beat, but that matchup had nothing to do with competitive boxing.

You're not at all incorrect in that in Roy's prime, he'd be the best choice for a win against Calzaghe, certainly the favorite of all oddsmakers. And Roy still has the ring smarts and ability, but he no longer has the speed, conditioning or reflexes to get the job done. He'll put up a great fight for 4 to 6 rounds, maybe even win most of those rounds, but he'll start to fade quick after that and end up as bad, or worse, than he did against Johnson and Tarver. Everybody assumes that Calzaghe is a slow stupid oaf who couldn't mash a fly with his hardest punch, and anybody that thinks that way is either a complete idiot, new to the sport of boxing, or ....well, just a complete fucking idiot. Check the guy's record, watch some more of his fights, paying particular attention to how he adapts to each fighter, and even closer attention to how easily he hurts his opponents with those flyswatters. The blatant bias and lack of objectivity on this forum is sad. Makes me wonder if most of the users even have a thought process. ...I've always liked Calzaghe...until I was listening to him and his corner in the Kessler fight...sounded bad imo...if Kessler didn't get tired and blow the fight...he had Calzaghe's number but for whatever reason let Calzaghe go and win the fight...if you can hit Calzaghe he get's flustered...and if RJJ can hit him I think he's got a good chance of beating Calzaghe...is RJJ shot?...Tito thought so...

You're not at all incorrect in that in Roy's prime, he'd be the best choice for a win against Calzaghe, certainly the favorite of all oddsmakers. And Roy still has the ring smarts and ability, but he no longer has the speed, conditioning or reflexes to get the job done. He'll put up a great fight for 4 to 6 rounds, maybe even win most of those rounds, but he'll start to fade quick after that and end up as bad, or worse, than he did against Johnson and Tarver. Everybody assumes that Calzaghe is a slow stupid oaf who couldn't mash a fly with his hardest punch, and anybody that thinks that way is either a complete idiot, new to the sport of boxing, or ....well, just a complete fucking idiot. Check the guy's record, watch some more of his fights, paying particular attention to how he adapts to each fighter, and even closer attention to how easily he hurts his opponents with those flyswatters. The blatant bias and lack of objectivity on this forum is sad. Makes me wonder if most of the users even have a thought process. Ha ha. More fool them I say. Calzaghe will have a big reputation years from now, I'm sure. He is unique in the way he approaches boxing and can do things other guys around his weightclasses can only dream of. You just have to actually understand boxing to appreciate it, so not much chance round here.

...style wise, I think RJJ is better vs Calzaghe...I think you need to go into Calzaghe with a plan of out boxing him for 12 rounds and that's RJJ's strong point, out boxing his opponent...if the fight happens, and RJJ can come in shape and do what he does best, he'll make Calzaghe look silly...jmo... You're not at all incorrect in that in Roy's prime, he'd be the best choice for a win against Calzaghe, certainly the favorite of all oddsmakers. And Roy still has the ring smarts and ability, but he no longer has the speed, conditioning or reflexes to get the job done. He'll put up a great fight for 4 to 6 rounds, maybe even win most of those rounds, but he'll start to fade quick after that and end up as bad, or worse, than he did against Johnson and Tarver. Everybody assumes that Calzaghe is a slow stupid oaf who couldn't mash a fly with his hardest punch, and anybody that thinks that way is either a complete idiot, new to the sport of boxing, or ....well, just a complete fucking idiot. Check the guy's record, watch some more of his fights, paying particular attention to how he adapts to each fighter, and even closer attention to how easily he hurts his opponents with those flyswatters. The blatant bias and lack of objectivity on this forum is sad. Makes me wonder if most of the users even have a thought process.

At this point in time, Hopkins is probably twice the fighter Roy Jones is. ...style wise, I think RJJ is better vs Calzaghe...I think you need to go into Calzaghe with a plan of out boxing him for 12 rounds and that's RJJ's strong point, out boxing his opponent...if the fight happens, and RJJ can come in shape and do what he does best, he'll make Calzaghe look silly...jmo...

...RJJ by UD or maybe even TKO...I don't think Calzaghe has ever fought someone as good as RJJ...but we shall see if it ever happens... At this point in time, Hopkins is probably twice the fighter Roy Jones is.

I am going to take Wlad Owns points when the fight is over with.

...RJJ by UD or maybe even TKO...I don't think Calzaghe has ever fought someone as good as RJJ...but we shall see if it ever happens...

stupid thread. calzaghe is a top fighter whereas jones is shot and could not keep up with the tempo ova 12 rounds.

Picking Roy Jones to defeat Joe Calzaghe is an opinion that can only be explained by an absolute denial of reality. Roy Jones is shot as hell. His legs are gone, his reflexes too, and so, outside of the odd turn back the clock jab, is his handspeed. He also never actually had huge power at SMW/ LHW either. In all of his recent 'succesful' fights he has looked frail and weak, much worse in fact than he did in any of his losses. If you think that RJJ is that bad then I guess you yourself shouldn't give Joe any credit if he pulls off the victory. Why complain that fans won't give Joe credit when most of them feel this way??? That is inaccurate. RJJ at SMW was a very hard puncher. That was his prime weight. He had it all....power, speed, youth at 168. Mark my words, Calzaghe will beat him easily,:puppy_dog probably on a TKO. The inability to see how good Calzaghe actually is astounds me. He is a terifically skilful boxer with timing and movement that are literally second to none around his weight class and in the absence of Mayweather he is probably P4P #1 in the world quite easily if we base the judgement purely on skill:ugh:. My ability to see Joe is just fine. Your ability however comes into question. The only way Joe comes close to Floyd Mayweather is record wise....being unbeaten and a 2-division champ. Skillwise, he doesn't crack the Top 10.