Point is that English don't really give a shit, it's cunts like the welsh who don't like the english. I don't know anyone who actively hates the welsh, no ones got any reason to. People make jokes about them but no one really hates them.
This whole British or Welsh thing makes me laugh.
He is British until he loses, after that he becomes Welsh, so the English can disassociate themselves with him, we all know this.
i am not yank but why do you assume people posting are? one thing i wonder is this, answer this question for me if you dont mind.
do english people who support calzaghe also support wales when they play rugby or football?. calzaghe is proud welshman, yet when he has success he immediately becomes british insteads of just welsh, so english can claim him as theirs even though he is proud to be welsh. maybe it is the media`s fault i dont know
You don't understand Great Britain. We support whomever we want to as long as they are British. It's not that hard to fathom.
Well, we have a fairly confused national identity. I would support England if they played Wales or Scotland in rugby or football, but in other sports where we compete as Britain, i.e. Athletics or to a lesser extent, tennis (Andy Murray is Scottish) then I support the British guy. Likewise in football, after England I would support Scotland or Wales, even Ireland. There is rivalry between the 'home nations' but in general we are all Brits. I think so anyway.
ok, pretty confusing though
ok fair enough. its just when it comes to football i hear english say things like "sheepshaggers" and other things so i thought there is rivalry, maybe i am wrong
Well, we have a fairly confused national identity. I would support England if they played Wales or Scotland in rugby or football, but in other sports where we compete as Britain, i.e. Athletics or to a lesser extent, tennis (Andy Murray is Scottish) then I support the British guy. Likewise in football, after England I would support Scotland or Wales, even Ireland. There is rivalry between the 'home nations' but in general we are all Brits. I think so anyway.
he was born in london.
he does not consider himself english in any way. he considers himself completely welsh, i have never seen him bring english flag to ring with him when he fights
Basically, here in the UK most of us find we are not riven in two by arbitrarily defined ethnic groupings that don't mean jack shit.
ok fair enough. its just when it comes to football i hear english say things like "sheepshaggers" and other things so i thought there is rivalry, maybe i am wrong
i am not yank but why do you assume people posting are? one thing i wonder is this, answer this question for me if you dont mind.
do english people who support calzaghe also support wales when they play rugby or football?. calzaghe is proud welshman, yet when he has success he immediately becomes british insteads of just welsh, so english can claim him as theirs even though he is proud to be welsh. maybe it is the media`s fault i dont know
Basically, here in the UK most of us find we are not riven in two by arbitrarily defined ethnic groupings that don't mean jack shit.
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i am not yank but why do you assume people posting are? one thing i wonder is this, answer this question for me if you dont mind.
do english people who support calzaghe also support wales when they play rugby or football?. calzaghe is proud welshman, yet when he has success he immediately becomes british insteads of just welsh, so english can claim him as theirs even though he is proud to be welsh. maybe it is the media`s fault i dont know
Threads like this bring nothing new. Don't hate Calzaghe, hate the fact he can get away with it.. Calzaghe managed to do a much worse deal for boxing because he was never legit in ANY weight class. But there is no reason to go bashing a fighter like that. He believes he's better off doing this old men rampage and retiring so be it.
You, his fans are to blame too, and the boxing media. Making Joe Calzaghe p4p anything? How is boxing going to be seen when you present them the p4p number 2 guy? They're gonna look at his record and say "well, most mma bums have fought better competition" And they are right, even the bum in mma have fought the top guys while in their primes. Even most hated boxing p4p previous guy Mayweather have defeated younger undefeated fighters in Hatton and Corrales! PLease try comparing Hatton and Corrales with Lacy and Kessler please try :)
Anyway lets focus on the new blood and hope they can save boxing.
You talk as though you are some wise old sage, with only the interests of boxing at heart, but the content of your post reveals that you make the simplest mistake of all. Mistaking your knowledge of boxing for a complete knowledge of boxing, which would be fine if you were thw world's foremost boxing expert, but you aren't, you're a punk on an internet forum who obviously believes that being 'legit' as a boxer, equates to being 'American'.
Threads like this bring nothing new. Don't hate Calzaghe, hate the fact he can get away with it.. Calzaghe managed to do a much worse deal for boxing because he was never legit in ANY weight class. But there is no reason to go bashing a fighter like that. He believes he's better off doing this old men rampage and retiring so be it.
You, his fans are to blame too, and the boxing media. Making Joe Calzaghe p4p anything? How is boxing going to be seen when you present them the p4p number 2 guy? They're gonna look at his record and say "well, most mma bums have fought better competition" And they are right, even the bum in mma have fought the top guys while in their primes. Even most hated boxing p4p previous guy Mayweather have defeated younger undefeated fighters in Hatton and Corrales! PLease try comparing Hatton and Corrales with Lacy and Kessler please try :)
Anyway lets focus on the new blood and hope they can save boxing.