First of all, as one that have laced up the gloves and fought I say this, ANYONE who hasn't has no merit for calling ANY man or woman a coward. Second, I've said this on many posts before. Just because the guy doesn't fight the guys you want him to fight doesn't mean he's a coward. It also doesn't diminish his capabilities to beat any man in a match pound for pound. You box for 12 three minute rounds and then come post about cowards. Just box for 6 rounds ! I'll give you one better, let someone knock the shit out you and you get back up and kick their ass (as Cotto has done) then you post about cowards. Break your hand against someone's head and finish and win the fight without your best weapon(as Floyd has done) and then post about being a coward. Most of the people talking that coward shit has either never boxed or even been in a fight. I'm not trying to incite anyone to argue I'm just trying to instill some understanding into what it takes to be a prize fighter. Which brings up another interesting point. Isn't it called prize fighting? That term alone makes it a business. Would you do your job for less money just because some fool with a keyboard wants to be convinced you're the best at it? I doubt it. For those that have missed out on the opportunity to merit calling someone else that fights a coward. I'd be more than willing to take your names and host a boxing tournament at the base I'm stationed. I guarantee two things. 1. most of you won't accept the offer. 2. You won't call another fighter a coward if you do accept. Anyone that claim to box and still can call a professional fighter a coward, is either lying about their pedigree or was very bad at it and hates those that are good at it. PM me and I'll start a list for anyone wanting to accept my offer. I have access to a couple gyms across the country. (KY,TX,GA,OK and OH)
FINALLY!!! Someone with some logic and sense! I agree with you 100%. The timing sucks really bad. I can also see him retiring for good due to lack of interest. I honestly think he'll come back and fight Cotto. At least that's what I want. If he retires in his prime thats cool too. Barry Sanders did and I was just as pissed off!
You can't speak to people with logic and sense on this forum.. as everyone is brain dead.
That's why I have to posting style I do and post the way I do.
A lot of shit I don't mean.. If you really knew me you would see I'm very bright.
People take this website soo seriously though and I love fucking with them and their heads. It helps kill time. You wanted an honest answer, I gave you one.
that's enough for now...
I don't really think he ran :( I'm just having my fun..
Can you imagine if Cotto would have went into retirement when the division was hot and Mayweather was in his position..
We wouldn't hear the end of it.. It's payback for his little bitch made fans and all the shit he has talked and not backed up.
I honestly do feel he is bored and tired with the sport.. Sometimes I get tired in the gym too where I don't want to go and I haven't been doing this for long.
I can only imagine what it's like being in the game 20 years and doing this shit on the daily.. It's stressful and the hardest sport I have ever done.
The only thing that makes me question his decision a bit is his timing..
I think he will be back in a year or so to fight Cotto if he continues to win and if he doesn't then he stays retired.
FINALLY!!! Someone with some logic and sense! I agree with you 100%. The timing sucks really bad. I can also see him retiring for good due to lack of interest. I honestly think he'll come back and fight Cotto. At least that's what I want. If he retires in his prime thats cool too. Barry Sanders did and I was just as pissed off!
Not at all! They can talk. I was talking about keyboard experts that have no clue or heart to do what fighters do. If you've been in the ring and have the heart to fight good for you. Your opinion has merit. That was my point. At least part of it anyway. You know for a fact he ran from Cotto,Marg,Clottey or Williams ? What if he REALLY was tired of fighting. Can you say you've fought for 20 years? I'm a boxing fan man. I like Floyd,Cotto and Marg. I grew up when we had Sugar Ray,Hearns and Duran in the mix. So I wanted them to all fight each other. If the man says he's tired of boxing than so be it. He did what ALL of critics suggested and gave up the p4p. ALL men have fear. No one but Floyd knows what fueled his decision. I'm just trying to get people to see a different perspective.
I don't really think he ran :( I'm just having my fun..
Can you imagine if Cotto would have went into retirement when the division was hot and Mayweather was in his position..
We wouldn't hear the end of it.. It's payback for his little bitch made fans and all the shit he has talked and not backed up.
I honestly do feel he is bored and tired with the sport.. Sometimes I get tired in the gym too where I don't want to go and I haven't been doing this for long.
I can only imagine what it's like being in the game 20 years and doing this shit on the daily.. It's stressful and the hardest sport I have ever done.
The only thing that makes me question his decision a bit is his timing..
I think he will be back in a year or so to fight Cotto if he continues to win and if he doesn't then he stays retired.
I guess professional boxers who call other boxers cowards are lying about their pedigree :ugh:
I been in my share of street fights and in my share of boxing fights... I go to the gym.. what difference does it make?
Floyd is still a coward for talking all that shit then running into retirment with his tail tucked between his legs.
Not at all! They can talk. I was talking about keyboard experts that have no clue or heart to do what fighters do. If you've been in the ring and have the heart to fight good for you. Your opinion has merit. That was my point. At least part of it anyway. You know for a fact he ran from Cotto,Marg,Clottey or Williams ? What if he REALLY was tired of fighting. Can you say you've fought for 20 years? I'm a boxing fan man. I like Floyd,Cotto and Marg. I grew up when we had Sugar Ray,Hearns and Duran in the mix. So I wanted them to all fight each other. If the man says he's tired of boxing than so be it. He did what ALL of critics suggested and gave up the p4p. ALL men have fear. No one but Floyd knows what fueled his decision. I'm just trying to get people to see a different perspective.
We're getting real emotional..lol Just check out the thread with that coalition dude. lol
oh well, my favorite fighter is Juan Manuel Marquez. dude is called a faqqot (cuz of the pics with the jap) and a crybaby (cuz of the losses to Pac) but that doesn't take away the fact that he's a brilliant fighter.
now, if you call him overrated, well, as a boxing fan, we got a problem right there. but name calling is just that, name calling.
WHAT?!?!? wrestling is staged?
nah..........
how can it be? i see blood when they fight.
besides......the commisioner vince mcmahon would go apeshit if he found out fighters were staging fights.
Well Idiot Fake Floyd fans love cowards.
Like you.
I'm just pointing that fact out.
Some men like me prefer dignified champs, courage and dignity.
Others... like you... well.. they prefer shit, trash and cowards.
Actually Jackass! You have no idea what I prefer. I'll fill you in though, I prefer a 5'2 130 sexy female . I prefer to be riding my 2007 GSX-R1000, I prefer to have a conversation with someone who's IQ is higher than the legal drinking age(exclude yourself!). And finally my list of preferred champions are: Marvelous Marvin Hagler,Sugar Ray Leonard,Carlos Monzon,Salvadore Sanchez,Corneilas Boza Edwards, Azumah Nelson,Muhammad Ali,Thomas Hearns,Roberto Duran,Floyd Mayweather and Kelly Pavlik. Some you may like, some your dumb ass have to google and some you may hate. Now you can't assume to know what I prefer and don't prefer. You can engage in a conversation without spouting shit you know nothing about!
I guess professional boxers who call other boxers cowards are lying about their pedigree :ugh:
I been in my share of street fights and in my share of boxing fights... I go to the gym.. what difference does it make?
Floyd is still a coward for talking all that shit then running into retirment with his tail tucked between his legs.
Weren't you *****ing about people not reading for two minutes?
Did it take you 2 hours to write it? I couldn't be bothered to read it, I'll wait until it comes out on hardback, thanks for the contribution.
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Why not be sorry for your idiocy?
Admiring cowards is idiocy afterall.
Especially the types who pisses on their pants then runs behind their homo managers looking for an excuse.
Idiocy? You're the epitome of an idiot. Do you know for a fact whomever you're ranting about pissed his pants? Second, who the fuck cares what his manager's sexual preference is? Why do you? Actually I am a idiot to even be responding to an ASS CLOWN like yourself. For that I apologize! Just get back on your keyboard and continue talking stupid. Pardon the interruption.
I can't believe someone compared soldiers to boxers...
Moving on the entire world should read this...
Floyd talks about how great he is, the best that ever did it, telling SRL that he would've beaten him, and claiming that he was even better than Ali and SRR, even though Ali would've never retired without fighting all the top guys to show that he was as great with his hands as he is with his mouth, UNLIKE FLOYD...and SRR had 200 fights, 20 losses, with over 50% by knockout (108 KOs), fighting 24 HOF FIGHTERS, and fighting many opponents 2 or more times to claim his supremacy (Gene Fullmer, Carmen Basilio, Bobo Olson, Randy Turpin), including Jack LaMotta, whom he fought 6 times, losing only once in those 6 fights (from 1942 - 1951) and knocking him out in their final bout...YET, as Floyd is called by Margarito, "Fraud Gayweather", with less than 40 fights (39 to be exact), claims to be better than SRR, who fought all comers (unlike Floyd, who turned down a fight contract for Margarito for a purse that would've been the highest of his career at the time, and turned down a fight with Cotto when asked by Larry Merchant if he would fight Cotto...Floyd said, "I have nothing left to prove"...as if he'd ever cleaned out a division and unified the titles to show beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was the absolute best in that division, let alone the very best in all of boxing). And Floyd, with only 39 fights, donning brittle hands, complains about how much pain his body is in, and says that his body is breaking down after less than 25% of the amount of professional fights as the great SRR that he claims to be better than.
If you train properly, your bones should get stronger from the rigorous pressures of training, if you do it properly. Bone thickens and becomes denser from constant pressurization and tempering (hitting the bag, knuckle push-ups, etc...skin toughens from layers of scarring and callous, which builds a 'rhino' layer over the knuckles to protect the hands, giving you the ability to punch harder without injuring your knuckles because of the hardened shell produced by hardcore training, and if you stretch and weight train properly, along with good nutrition and dietary habits and proper rest and recuperation periods, your muscles and tendons should become sturdier, firmer, stronger, and tougher as well. This is why martial artists can put their hands through 5 - 15 bricks and cinder blocks that outweigh them by 100 lbs or more, without injury, and with relative ease. Yet, Floyd, in his early 30's, is falling apart. He compares himself to a fighter in SRR who has 4 times more fights than he has, facing a much tougher pool of competiition, fighting more frequently, rematching the top fighters to prove his dominance, and all with less technologically advanced, developed and designed instruments, with old school exercise regimens, and fighting better opposition. So why is Floyd falling apart, when he has so many more technological advances in sciences, medicines and machinery to prepare for these fights, having lesser challengers, and fighting less frequently? How is he the G.O.A.T.?
So here's my appreciation to Floyd Mayweather, Jr.:
Dear Floyd,
You have tremendous talent. There's not a mix of hand speed, punching accuracy, footwork, ring generalship and overall intelligence like yours in the entire sport today. You were a waste of space and full of hot air because you didn't have the HEART needed to match your skill level, the HEART needed to excel and prove yourself against ALL COMERS like you said you would, in essence, making yourself out to be a liar ("I'll fight aaaany fighter from 154 on down. You bring'em and I'll beat'em"...yet, you didn't fight Margarito or Cotto. Or Williams. Or Clottey. 4 of the toughest guys in the division, and all tougher than anybody you've fought in the division so far).
Thanks for not cleaning out the divisions and unifying the titles. Thanks for fighting an old, retiring Oscar De La Hoya in the twilight moments of his career at a catch weight above the actual division you represent, and acting as if you proved something by facing him besides that you know how to latch onto big name fighters with diminishing skills for a big paycheck and bragging rights when you actually have no room, rhyme or reason to brag. Thanks for fighting him, a 34 year old DLH, whom you dissed, telling him that he made his name on legendary fighters (like Chavez and Whitaker) who were old and washed up (but they were 33 when Oscar fought them, and Oscar was 34 when you fought him, and he was fighting only once or twice per year, spending more time scouting fighters and signing them to his stable while running the promotional aspect of boxing instead of actually fighting...so what's your point again? Who's feasting on the old and washed up fighters here?). Thanks for fighting Ricky Hatton, the much smaller man from a lesser weight class that you outranked in height, reach, speed, strength, weight...the guy you called "one-dimensional" and a "midget", but yet you still saw fit to fight (oh wait, you were just leeching off his fame and notoriety and ability to draw big dollars...just like Oscar! My bad!)...a fighter you found worthy of fighting even though he'd already proven himself to be ill-equipped to fight as a welter against a much lesser fighter than yourself in Luis Collazo (ooh, another SAFE payday and notch on your belt, huh). Thanks for never proving you were the absolute best in any weight class above 130lbs by taking on all the top threats, for taking on mediocre competition for the sake of a belt so that you could say you were the champion of that division, then moving up in weight without sticking around to clean house...and thanks for not showing that you are the absolute best in all of boxing in recent years, as you've been given credit as being, but which can't actually be proven if you don't even show us that you're the absolute best in the WW division by taking on all the most dangerous fighters. That's like saying you're the baddest man in prison because you beat up on the 2nd best bad men, but you never take on the inmates who actually crack skulls for a 'lil extra fun while serving their life sentences, keeping the 2nd best guys in check. Your true value is shown against the very best FIGHTERS...not the best NAMES or PAYDAYS. If you say you're the very best, but you don't fight all the very best to prove it, then you haven't really proven anything. It's easy to look extraordinary against ordinary opposition.
You are one less black eye in boxing. You are one less fighter with a lofty assessment and opinion of himself who won't attempt to back it up against the toughest, most threatening and dangerous fighters to either prove the claims that come out of his mouth, or be disproved by defeat against the best competition. Boxing is better off without promoters and fighters who are anything like the character you've displayed.
Thanks, Floyd. Thanks for retiring. The world of boxing is a much better place without you. I hope you never come back.
jesus , king!!!
i think i'll wait for the movie to come out.
Left, I have disagree with you a bit. A soldier has no more courage than a boxer. There is more honor in defending your country than being a boxer though. I have to admit, scared is scared. Soldiers are just as scared as boxers. Both have different parallels. I hate to see two good posters arguing over courage. Both of you make good points. Squash this please. lol
ha ha ha i think you have your hands full with clegg and mo.
they're killing you boof. what you do to piss them off?
as far as the courage thing i can't agree with that.
i think there is a difference. courage required to overcome fear of death is higher than the fear to get hit or hurt. courage required to overcome the fear of failing your country or your fellow soldiers is far greater than the courage needed to overcome fear of L in your record or losing a chance to fight for a title.
that's just me though.
How any earth you can compare a boxer to a soldier is beyond me. This thread is becoming more and more ridiculous.
News just in, pictures snapped of Floyd at his retirement press conference.
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Did you know you can get porn on the internet?
for real???
i don't need to go to the video store anymore???
that's convenient! sometimes i can't go because i'm drunk and don't want to drive.
i hope people realize that when you're drunk it impairs your driving skills and it could cause an accident.
Why not be sorry for your idiocy?
Admiring cowards is idiocy afterall.
Especially the types who pisses on their pants then runs behind their homo managers looking for an excuse.
Floyd forgives you for your hatred. He loves you.
So can you call courage pissing on his pants after talking trash?
I'll assume even you ain't that stupid.
Hey wait.
Are you?
You assume right......Who pissed their pants after talking trash?