Andre Berto >>> Collazo, Clottey, Judah, Mosley, Quintana

Berto needs some brushing up just like all young prospects, but he should be a good one if he stays on track. He's not ready for the elite yet though.

Physically I think Berto is just as good if not better than all of those guys. Too me Berto isn't mentally focused enough and that is why he takes those unecessary shots. Even though his defense needs works some of those shots he takes might be because after a while he knows his opponent can't beat him. More focus and better defense I don't see why he can't beat anybody in his division in about a year and a half.

My question with Berto is with how quick he is, how hard does he REALLY hit? Or did Mikki Rod have a hell of a chin? But I agree Berto still needs work on the defense side of things, but his speed is ridiculous no doubt. I wouldn't go as far yet sayin he'll beat a Cotto, Clottey, or Mosley just yet. But I hope he flourishes.

Kaboooooooooom Is that how Berto's uppercut sounded when it connected with "Miki"

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Line em up... its time for the future Mosley: In his prime would take berto... obviously...but that can be debated becauseIthink mosleys prime was below 147... but at 36, he doesnt move his head enough, and bertos jab is no joke... Judah: Requires no explanation, BERTO WOULD COMPLETELY break down Judah... I think Andre has the hardest body attack in the WW division, but everyone just wants to talk about Cotto, Mr 6 round fighter zab couldnt handle that pressure for all 12 rounds... theres just no way about it... Clottey: WOuld be a great fight, But I think Berto can edge it out, The Jab is really his best weapon in my opinion... Clottey is a great inside fighter and would most likely test Bertos heart, But I think the key is that jab from keeping clottey working on the inside... and berto will need head movement in this fight... Collazo: I just think Berto is a better faster and more powerful fighter, The SouthPaw stance might give him problems, buz I cant see Collazo handling the power... Quintana: Could be problems, But I see Berto pulling that out, I think Quintana is the weakest link the championship division... he can box, but anyone with a good punch ala williams and cotto can take him out... In my humble opinion bertos got more snap than both of them... im sure the cottoboys will disagree... and ima HUGE fan of Pwill.. but i think Bertos just got more snap... Cotto, Floyd, Margarito, Cintron, and Williams are all above Berto at this stage... but only because Andre is still up and coming, and working on his defense, which even he has said needs brushed up on... once his defense is figured out... its gonna be rough for anyone to deal with... The fact that Andre hasnt faced any "names" yet, doesn't mean he cant BEAT them... his management has been doing a SUPERB job, on slowly yet surely upping his competition, and he slowly but surely has been upping his performance... Ive been absolutely amazed and intrigued by this mans talent, and show my friends every time he fights... Sad to see Floyd go,but Fun to see whats new coming in.. and thats Andre Berto... Now he could beat Quintana and Judah easily for your reasons above, Clottey I doubt and Mosley no way. Mosley barely loss to Cotto and Berto would get knocked out by Cotto now. In a couple years he takes the division.

Berto has great trouble with and possibly loses to Mosley and Collazo, he needs more work. He can beat Judah IMO but he needs to improve his defense. He has too many openings in his defense and has not faced opposition worth mentioning.

Line em up... its time for the future Mosley: In his prime would take berto... obviously...but that can be debated becauseIthink mosleys prime was below 147... but at 36, he doesnt move his head enough, and bertos jab is no joke... Judah: Requires no explanation, BERTO WOULD COMPLETELY break down Judah... I think Andre has the hardest body attack in the WW division, but everyone just wants to talk about Cotto, Mr 6 round fighter zab couldnt handle that pressure for all 12 rounds... theres just no way about it... Clottey: WOuld be a great fight, But I think Berto can edge it out, The Jab is really his best weapon in my opinion... Clottey is a great inside fighter and would most likely test Bertos heart, But I think the key is that jab from keeping clottey working on the inside... and berto will need head movement in this fight... Collazo: I just think Berto is a better faster and more powerful fighter, The SouthPaw stance might give him problems, buz I cant see Collazo handling the power... Quintana: Could be problems, But I see Berto pulling that out, I think Quintana is the weakest link the championship division... he can box, but anyone with a good punch ala williams and cotto can take him out... In my humble opinion bertos got more snap than both of them... im sure the cottoboys will disagree... and ima HUGE fan of Pwill.. but i think Bertos just got more snap... Cotto, Floyd, Margarito, Cintron, and Williams are all above Berto at this stage... but only because Andre is still up and coming, and working on his defense, which even he has said needs brushed up on... once his defense is figured out... its gonna be rough for anyone to deal with... The fact that Andre hasnt faced any "names" yet, doesn't mean he cant BEAT them... his management has been doing a SUPERB job, on slowly yet surely upping his competition, and he slowly but surely has been upping his performance... Ive been absolutely amazed and intrigued by this mans talent, and show my friends every time he fights... Sad to see Floyd go,but Fun to see whats new coming in.. and thats Andre Berto... I agree 100%, and I don't undestand why Berto isn't respected more. Anyone can clearly see that he is already one of the best offensive forces in boxing. Only the very best of the division will stop him, and maybe not for that much longer.

I've watched almost all of Beto's fights and agree he would beat most in the division.

Im still not sold on the kid yet.When he starts fighting people hes suppose to fight especially now that hes champ then ill decide but for now i still see him as a prospect.Zab,Mosley and Clottey would give him HELL. Quintana is a good first step,but I have seen berto against any southpaws.

It's hard to say how good Berto actually is until he fights someone who would actually give him trouble.

I didn't see the fight. How did Berto look? I will get too see it later this week as Sky Sports are showing it on Thursday.....God knows why.

i don't think he would fight collazo, collazo used him as a sparring partner when he fought against mosely. berto wasn't as polished as he is now but i heard that collazo was giving it to him.

Line em up... its time for the future Mosley: In his prime would take berto... obviously...but that can be debated becauseIthink mosleys prime was below 147... but at 36, he doesnt move his head enough, and bertos jab is no joke... Judah: Requires no explanation, BERTO WOULD COMPLETELY break down Judah... I think Andre has the hardest body attack in the WW division, but everyone just wants to talk about Cotto, Mr 6 round fighter zab couldnt handle that pressure for all 12 rounds... theres just no way about it... Clottey: WOuld be a great fight, But I think Berto can edge it out, The Jab is really his best weapon in my opinion... Clottey is a great inside fighter and would most likely test Bertos heart, But I think the key is that jab from keeping clottey working on the inside... and berto will need head movement in this fight... Collazo: I just think Berto is a better faster and more powerful fighter, The SouthPaw stance might give him problems, buz I cant see Collazo handling the power... Quintana: Could be problems, But I see Berto pulling that out, I think Quintana is the weakest link the championship division... he can box, but anyone with a good punch ala williams and cotto can take him out... In my humble opinion bertos got more snap than both of them... im sure the cottoboys will disagree... and ima HUGE fan of Pwill.. but i think Bertos just got more snap... Cotto, Floyd, Margarito, Cintron, and Williams are all above Berto at this stage... but only because Andre is still up and coming, and working on his defense, which even he has said needs brushed up on... once his defense is figured out... its gonna be rough for anyone to deal with... The fact that Andre hasnt faced any "names" yet, doesn't mean he cant BEAT them... his management has been doing a SUPERB job, on slowly yet surely upping his competition, and he slowly but surely has been upping his performance... Ive been absolutely amazed and intrigued by this mans talent, and show my friends every time he fights... Sad to see Floyd go,but Fun to see whats new coming in.. and thats Andre Berto... Good post. I think Collazo would be a good step up for Berto. I think he makes easy work of that matchup and should then take the winner of Clottey-Judah. Berto reminds me a little of Mayweather but with an edge to him. I like that he's hungry and will be a great addition to the Welterweight division. He has extremely tough opposition in Cotto, Margarito, Williams, and possibly Mosley but I think he can take care of Collazo, Cintron, and Judah. I haven't seen enough of Clottey so I can't comment on him.

Good post, I agree with you, except for where you rank Kermit. I think Berto might be too fast for Cintron to settle and make a fight for himself. Just like the others you mentioned, Berot got a chance and any of them should make an interesting matchup for Berto. This is what I posted earlier on another thread... Collazo, Cintron, Quintana, Clottey, Zudah and Mosley are good matchups for Berto. He should beat at least 2 of those fighters before he heads up to fight any of the top 3. It's interesting how you make comments about deserving a fight. Thanks to Kermit's will to overcome his first loss (and stupidity), Tony got a chance to become a champ again. After losing to Paul Williams, Tony could had been easily ducked by all tittle holders. Berto should fight any of the six fighters I meantioned at the beginning.

Line em up... its time for the future Mosley: In his prime would take berto... obviously...but that can be debated becauseIthink mosleys prime was below 147... but at 36, he doesnt move his head enough, and bertos jab is no joke... Judah: Requires no explanation, BERTO WOULD COMPLETELY break down Judah... I think Andre has the hardest body attack in the WW division, but everyone just wants to talk about Cotto, Mr 6 round fighter zab couldnt handle that pressure for all 12 rounds... theres just no way about it... Clottey: WOuld be a great fight, But I think Berto can edge it out, The Jab is really his best weapon in my opinion... Clottey is a great inside fighter and would most likely test Bertos heart, But I think the key is that jab from keeping clottey working on the inside... and berto will need head movement in this fight... Collazo: I just think Berto is a better faster and more powerful fighter, The SouthPaw stance might give him problems, buz I cant see Collazo handling the power... Quintana: Could be problems, But I see Berto pulling that out, I think Quintana is the weakest link the championship division... he can box, but anyone with a good punch ala williams and cotto can take him out... In my humble opinion bertos got more snap than both of them... im sure the cottoboys will disagree... and ima HUGE fan of Pwill.. but i think Bertos just got more snap... Cotto, Floyd, Margarito, Cintron, and Williams are all above Berto at this stage... but only because Andre is still up and coming, and working on his defense, which even he has said needs brushed up on... once his defense is figured out... its gonna be rough for anyone to deal with... The fact that Andre hasnt faced any "names" yet, doesn't mean he cant BEAT them... his management has been doing a SUPERB job, on slowly yet surely upping his competition, and he slowly but surely has been upping his performance... Ive been absolutely amazed and intrigued by this mans talent, and show my friends every time he fights... Sad to see Floyd go,but Fun to see whats new coming in.. and thats Andre Berto... your a fucking moron! im not convinced that you dont know what the fuck your talking about! mosley would sherd him and so would zab. unless he pulls some funny shit and gets by without being seen by the ref.

Line em up... its time for the future Mosley: In his prime would take berto... obviously...but that can be debated becauseIthink mosleys prime was below 147... but at 36, he doesnt move his head enough, and bertos jab is no joke... Judah: Requires no explanation, BERTO WOULD COMPLETELY break down Judah... I think Andre has the hardest body attack in the WW division, but everyone just wants to talk about Cotto, Mr 6 round fighter zab couldnt handle that pressure for all 12 rounds... theres just no way about it... Clottey: WOuld be a great fight, But I think Berto can edge it out, The Jab is really his best weapon in my opinion... Clottey is a great inside fighter and would most likely test Bertos heart, But I think the key is that jab from keeping clottey working on the inside... and berto will need head movement in this fight... Collazo: I just think Berto is a better faster and more powerful fighter, The SouthPaw stance might give him problems, buz I cant see Collazo handling the power... Quintana: Could be problems, But I see Berto pulling that out, I think Quintana is the weakest link the championship division... he can box, but anyone with a good punch ala williams and cotto can take him out... In my humble opinion bertos got more snap than both of them... im sure the cottoboys will disagree... and ima HUGE fan of Pwill.. but i think Bertos just got more snap... Cotto, Floyd, Margarito, Cintron, and Williams are all above Berto at this stage... but only because Andre is still up and coming, and working on his defense, which even he has said needs brushed up on... once his defense is figured out... its gonna be rough for anyone to deal with... The fact that Andre hasnt faced any "names" yet, doesn't mean he cant BEAT them... his management has been doing a SUPERB job, on slowly yet surely upping his competition, and he slowly but surely has been upping his performance... Ive been absolutely amazed and intrigued by this mans talent, and show my friends every time he fights... Sad to see Floyd go,but Fun to see whats new coming in.. and thats Andre Berto... it's sad because he's wbc champ and he's not ready to fight other champs :nonono:

I think Mosely would beat him because he showed he still has a decent amount left in the tank from the competativeness of the Cotto fight but everything else you said was good :) i agree mosely would ko berto. cotto couldnt knock him out so how is berto gona even make mosely feel his punches?

Andre Berto > David Estrada > Chris Smith > Grover Wiley > JCC Sr. BERTO beats ALL

I also think Cotto & Margarito have better body work that Berto.