January 19, 2005: "ESPN2's February 18 "Friday Night Fights Main Events Special" from Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, NJ features both WBO welterweight champions, Kermit Cintron and Antonio Margarito, in title defenses. Cintron defends his WBO-interim welterweight crown against Steven Martinez in the main event, while WBO welterweight champion Margarito defends his title against Carlos Baldomir in the co-feature"
The WBO now has an interim champion while the real champ is active and they are both in WBO welterweight title fights... on the same show on the same night?? Tell you what. It will be a close call but let's do a poll and pose the question, "What is dumber, this or the WBA having a "regular champ" and a "super champ" in the same weight at the same time??" I don't know, but it's close. Real close.
(Before I go, let me interject one more recent one. The hits just keep on coming. A few weeks ago Jose Navarro went over to Japan to fight for the WBC title and apparently was robbed badly. Most observers had him winning pretty cleanly. Lou DiBella asked for a rematch to be ordered by the WBC. The WBC came back today and said they "very rarely order immediate rematches" and have only done so "a handful of times in the last quarter century." Hmmmmmm. Sounds good but did you know that one of those handful of times was when they ordered an immediate rematch of the first Mosley-Wright fight????? That fight warranted an immediate rematch? Sounds like the purse it generated, and the WBC's cut of it, warranted the rematch as much as anything that happened in the actual fight. Mosley wasn't robbed against Wright in any way but Navarro was against his Japanese opponent. I would love to hear Suliaman explain away this one.
January 21, 2005: ABC watch: Fight tonight. Ten rounds for the Vacant NBA Junior Intercontinental Light Heavyweight Title. The Junior Intercontinental title? Two questions: Who is the NBA and WHY in the world would they think a junior Intercontinental title is needed?
Ice, you really need to capture the WBC Latino over 40 title.
You don't have to be Latino and maybe not even over 40.
I remember a couple years ago Danny Batchelder, a white kid from upstate NY, fighting for the latino title. It was crazy lol
Dude, I hold the inter-condominium supercatch weight title of Northern NYC.
Well, my weight varies....and I have been through Northern NYC many many times...so under the rules of the JSDFCH I qualify as a challenger to you. It's ON now Lefty!
Champion, Super champion, Interm champion, International, Intercontinental, United States, North American, African, Hispnaic, Mundial, USBA Regional, etc etc etc......there is room for anyone in the top 20 to be a champion of some sort!!
Dude, I hold the inter-condominium supercatch weight title of Northern NYC.
** I was hoping someone would be prompted by his name being in the news this week.
Larry Holmes had 17 consecutive WBC title fights, the last being against Scott Frank before balking at facing his mandatory, Pinklon Thomas. Larry wanted to fight Marvis but the WBC wouldn't sanction that fight.
Larry fought Marvis anyway in a non title fight. I guess he and King couldn't get the IBF off the ground quick enough where he fought for 5 more non unified titles.
The only unified titles Larry fought for he lost, Tyson and Holy.
Just a little point of trivia. Good shout about Ottke, but Holmes layed the groundwork.
I accidentally found someone who beats both!
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=5673&cat=boxer
Artur Grigorian
Unless boxrec has incorrectly listed some of his interim title bouts as just regular bouts, then he had 18 title fights for the WBO lightweight title.
I was just looking at Freitas's page, and I saw he won his lightweight title from an undefeated guy, and it was Grigorian fighting his 18th consecutive fight for the WBO lightweight title!
Champion, Super champion, Interm champion, International, Intercontinental, United States, North American, African, Hispnaic, Mundial, USBA Regional, etc etc etc......there is room for anyone in the top 20 to be a champion of some sort!!
January 19, 2005: "ESPN2's February 18 "Friday Night Fights Main Events Special" from Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, NJ features both WBO welterweight champions, Kermit Cintron and Antonio Margarito, in title defenses. Cintron defends his WBO-interim welterweight crown against Steven Martinez in the main event, while WBO welterweight champion Margarito defends his title against Carlos Baldomir in the co-feature"
The WBO now has an interim champion while the real champ is active and they are both in WBO welterweight title fights... on the same show on the same night?? Tell you what. It will be a close call but let's do a poll and pose the question, "What is dumber, this or the WBA having a "regular champ" and a "super champ" in the same weight at the same time??" I don't know, but it's close. Real close.
(Before I go, let me interject one more recent one. The hits just keep on coming. A few weeks ago Jose Navarro went over to Japan to fight for the WBC title and apparently was robbed badly. Most observers had him winning pretty cleanly. Lou DiBella asked for a rematch to be ordered by the WBC. The WBC came back today and said they "very rarely order immediate rematches" and have only done so "a handful of times in the last quarter century." Hmmmmmm. Sounds good but did you know that one of those handful of times was when they ordered an immediate rematch of the first Mosley-Wright fight????? That fight warranted an immediate rematch? Sounds like the purse it generated, and the WBC's cut of it, warranted the rematch as much as anything that happened in the actual fight. Mosley wasn't robbed against Wright in any way but Navarro was against his Japanese opponent. I would love to hear Suliaman explain away this one.
January 21, 2005: ABC watch: Fight tonight. Ten rounds for the Vacant NBA Junior Intercontinental Light Heavyweight Title. The Junior Intercontinental title? Two questions: Who is the NBA and WHY in the world would they think a junior Intercontinental title is needed?
sanctioning fees.....THE FEES MAN THE FEES!!!
i love boxing but these sanctioning bodies would rather have more money than true champions
Ottke had 17 in a row for the IBF 168 title...
I doubt that would be topped...
Only a handful of fighter have 17 or more title fights/defenses in a row.
That at least gives you some decent starting ground.
** I was hoping someone would be prompted by his name being in the news this week.
Larry Holmes had 17 consecutive WBC title fights, the last being against Scott Frank before balking at facing his mandatory, Pinklon Thomas. Larry wanted to fight Marvis but the WBC wouldn't sanction that fight.
Larry fought Marvis anyway in a non title fight. I guess he and King couldn't get the IBF off the ground quick enough where he fought for 5 more non unified titles.
The only unified titles Larry fought for he lost, Tyson and Holy.
Just a little point of trivia. Good shout about Ottke, but Holmes layed the groundwork.
The WBC has the African title (that can be fought for by an American kid from Cleveland) and the WBC Latino title (which can be fought for by a Puerto Rican from New York). Imagine the Unified AFRICAN-Latino title fight..being contested over 12 rounds by...Sechew Powell and Raul Marquez??
I remember all these retarded double belts when Hopkins was the SuperChamp of the MW division. He was the champ but every belt had another guy with a regular version of there belt.
Scully I'm still waiting for a fight card to have 3 of the same belt in the card i.e. WBC Superchamp, WBC regular champ, WBC interim.......haha is that even possible?
** I know Baldy never fought Margarito. He would've been KOed had he done so.
Ice, here's a meaty question for you, and one right down your era of boxing.
Who holds the record for consecutive nonunified title fights? Nonunified meaning it was always two fighters contesting one belt only.
Ottke had 17 in a row for the IBF 168 title...
I doubt that would be topped...
Only a handful of fighter have 17 or more title fights/defenses in a row.
That at least gives you some decent starting ground.
I can't stand that fat Toad Jose Suliman. He is one of the most corrupt men in boxing.
I remember when Chavez lost to Willie Wise...but they kept him at #1 at 140 (because he fought Wise at 147 and not at 140)
January 19, 2005: "ESPN2's February 18 "Friday Night Fights Main Events Special" from Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, NJ features both WBO welterweight champions, Kermit Cintron and Antonio Margarito, in title defenses. Cintron defends his WBO-interim welterweight crown against Steven Martinez in the main event, while WBO welterweight champion Margarito defends his title against Carlos Baldomir in the co-feature"
The WBO now has an interim champion while the real champ is active and they are both in WBO welterweight title fights... on the same show on the same night?? Tell you what. It will be a close call but let's do a poll and pose the question, "What is dumber, this or the WBA having a "regular champ" and a "super champ" in the same weight at the same time??" I don't know, but it's close. Real close.
(Before I go, let me interject one more recent one. The hits just keep on coming. A few weeks ago Jose Navarro went over to Japan to fight for the WBC title and apparently was robbed badly. Most observers had him winning pretty cleanly. Lou DiBella asked for a rematch to be ordered by the WBC. The WBC came back today and said they "very rarely order immediate rematches" and have only done so "a handful of times in the last quarter century." Hmmmmmm. Sounds good but did you know that one of those handful of times was when they ordered an immediate rematch of the first Mosley-Wright fight????? That fight warranted an immediate rematch? Sounds like the purse it generated, and the WBC's cut of it, warranted the rematch as much as anything that happened in the actual fight. Mosley wasn't robbed against Wright in any way but Navarro was against his Japanese opponent. I would love to hear Suliaman explain away this one.
January 21, 2005: ABC watch: Fight tonight. Ten rounds for the Vacant NBA Junior Intercontinental Light Heavyweight Title. The Junior Intercontinental title? Two questions: Who is the NBA and WHY in the world would they think a junior Intercontinental title is needed?
I can't stand that fat Toad Jose Suliman. He is one of the most corrupt men in boxing.
** I know Baldy never fought Margarito. He would've been KOed had he done so.
Ice, here's a meaty question for you, and one right down your era of boxing.
Who holds the record for consecutive nonunified title fights? Nonunified meaning it was always two fighters contesting one belt only.
Man, thats a tough one. From my era.....hmmmm.....I need to think
I assume this show went off as planned ??
** I know Baldy never fought Margarito. He would've been KOed had he done so.
Ice, here's a meaty question for you, and one right down your era of boxing.
Who holds the record for consecutive nonunified title fights? Nonunified meaning it was always two fighters contesting one belt only.