Lets compare Lazcano's and Mayweather's left Check Hooks

And if Floyd gets the proper deductions for turning his back and ducking (he should have lost 2-3 points), the fight is closer yet. Still a brilliant fight from Floyd

Hatton never got enough credit for his performance against May. He pushed Floyd to another level. It's easy to look at all the clean punches landed late and poke fun at Hatton's defense, but Floyd had to set each of those over a long period of time. And Hatton was having his way early. Great performance from both guys

Laczano did not shift his weight, nor did he place it as well Mayweather hit Hatton with a ton of counter left hooks (and rights), most notably in the 8th round when he had Hatton hurt badly, but Ricky just didn't get the message. It was only a matter of time when Mayweather would finally time one right, with enough power and accuracy, and in the 10th round he did.

sharmba was coming off a 2 fight win streak:spank: Thx for the boxrec correction mutant. But since you like to nitpick let me correct you dipshit. He actually was on a one fight winning streak beating Chris Smith (who?) by a Techical Decision.I don't think anybody noticed him winning a fight after the pounding he took against Kostya Tszyu on national Tv. Next time you try to nitpick someones post, make sure you got it right yourself.

He is not even the same as in those fights. He had the mental edge of being a undefeated fighter in those days. He lost that mental edge. He already lost some of it against Collazo, running back down to 140 but had enough of it left because he still had the "0" on his loss column. Now he doesn't even have that. Malignaggie sounds pretty confident to me. Not overconfident, he has learned from the Cotto fight. He is just right mentally, the Hair incident doesn't seem to have effected him. He should come in bald. I'd give him props for that.

Laczano did not shift his weight, nor did he place it as well

I don't know. Ricky used to have a little head movement and when he didn't just jump in. Compare his fight to Ben Tackie and then to Juan Lazcano. He looks totally different. Also, I'm starting to sound like a Ricky nuthugger...I'm not even that big of a fan of his. I think he'll just win the fight. He is not even the same as in those fights. He had the mental edge of being a undefeated fighter in those days. He lost that mental edge. He already lost some of it against Collazo, running back down to 140 but had enough of it left because he still had the "0" on his loss column. Now he doesn't even have that. Malignaggie sounds pretty confident to me. Not overconfident, he has learned from the Cotto fight. He is just right mentally, the Hair incident doesn't seem to have effected him.

paulie wins 8 rounds and gets robbed is my pick for this fight.....then pacquiao will fight hatton, KO him and people will give him mad credit....

As i said in my thread: Hatton is going to be outboxed to a wide UD imo. Hatton is an excellent fighter when he uses his jab. He backs fighters up and pounds away with vicious body shots. However when he stops jabbing he is a really average fighter. His hands drop, he gets frustrated, his left hook becomes realy telegraphed ( thus the quick counter left hooks that Mayweather and even lazcano landed), his head movement disappears, his footwork is sloppy ( he squares up and walks straigh in), he pretty much gets sloppy. So when you fight Hatton you need to stop him from jabbing. How have some of his opponents done this? Well there seems to be a couple ways that past hatton opponents have gone about doing this. The faster opponents uses lots of lateral and vertical movement, good head movement, and a fast flicking jab. Mayweather did this in round 9 and it set up the knockout. Another way is something Juan Urango did, which is to go to the body... Back on topic, Paulie Mallignaggi has the perfect skills to nullify Hattons jab. His has MUCH faster hands, good head movment, extremly fast feet ( he is really quick with his vertical and lateral movement) and his left hook is quick. He also goes to the body pretty nicely, which is a plus in getting rid of Hattons jab. I see Hatton being tough in the begining, but eventually Mallignaggi's jab and body work is going to get rid of Hattons jab, and is going to set up easy pot shots from about round 4 on. I see Mallinaggi winning about 7-9 rounds and winning a UD. Paulies jab and movement squares Hatton up. His left hook becomes telegrammed because he drops the hand first. This sets up the check left hook. Anyone can land it. Slow fast. Power fighter or featherfisted fighter. Paulies will land a bunch of em.

I don't know. Ricky used to have a little head movement and when he didn't just jump in. Compare his fight to Ben Tackie and then to Juan Lazcano. He looks totally different. Also, I'm starting to sound like a Ricky nuthugger...I'm not even that big of a fan of his. I think he'll just win the fight.

lazcano threw it with no legs........it was an arm punch and it was not that well thrown.....lol hattons china-chin sucks...

Because Hatton's pressure is a lot better then 90% of the other fighters. Key to beating Hatton is the left hook too, luckily for Hatton, paulie can't punch for shit. Effective pressure yes. Cotto had effecive pressure....he didn't bullrush Malignaggie but he timed him well. So did N'Goudjo. Ricky Hatton's pressure consists of bullrushing his opponents, clinching first and hitting second. If he does try to punch first, it's a wide shot that can be countered easy. I believe Malignaggie has enough counter punching skills and great enough footwork (which is his main tool, getting away from danger) to offset everything that Hatton is doing, walking away with 8 rounds in the bank at least.

How does he not have the mental game to stick and move when that's what he has been doing in 90% of his fights???? Either Hatton is good enough to spoil what Malignaggie is doing like Cotto or he isn't. I don't think he is. I don't think he will hit Malignaggie hard enough and give him problems breathing like Cotto either. The Key to beating Hatton is pretty simple, good legs for movement and Paulie has it, even more then Floyd because that's what he relies on the most. Unlike Floyd, he only has one effective dimension to his game and that's "stick and move" all night, just as Cory Spinks or Sharmba Mitchell. Because Hatton's pressure is a lot better then 90% of the other fighters. Key to beating Hatton is the left hook too, luckily for Hatton, paulie can't punch for shit.

Mayweather's resume is worth less if Hatton loses to PM. Agree or disargee? I disagree for the simple reason that we all already knew that Hatton isn't this unbeatable pressure fighter. However, which ever fighter got to him first, giving him his first loss and knocking him off the P4P rankings deserves the most props. Floyd did that....the biggest criticism of Floyd was that he fought guys coming off losses (Zab judah, Sharmba MItchell) or that they weren't unbeaten and had alot of losses (Baldomir). This was a 2-division champion he gave the first loss to. Uh huh. Not sure that this is directly relevant to the specific point that I was making. However good you think Hatton is/was, he doesn't look as good if he loses to someone like Malignaggi, who is a good but not great fighter. That remains to be seen. Is Malignaggie retiring any time soon??? We don't know what kinda other things he will achieve in the remaining years of his career. Could go down as a 'great' jr.welterweight of his time. He has only one loss to Cotto, so lets not jump to conclusions. Well he was never at the top, I don't recall him ever being top 5. P4P rankings are opinion, not factual. And no, statistics are not all that matter. Even if they were, you could still be selective regarding which ones you used when assessing the situation. He was in the Top 10. All mythical P4P lists usually consist of the top 10, not 5, so it doesn't matter. He was one of the top fighters in the 140-147 range statistically. Stylistically, as far as skills - that's another issue. Some believed he had the skills (better then Castillo) and Floyd had to prove them wrong.

No. I already have points with Burner and Raseed on it and don't want to risk anymore if Paulie actually does decide to get his shit together. I mean Paulie has all the tools (minus the power) to beat Hatton, but I don't think he has the mental game to stick to outboxing him. How does he not have the mental game to stick and move when that's what he has been doing in 90% of his fights???? Either Hatton is good enough to spoil what Malignaggie is doing like Cotto or he isn't. I don't think he is. I don't think he will hit Malignaggie hard enough and give him problems breathing like Cotto either. The Key to beating Hatton is pretty simple, good legs for movement and Paulie has it, even more then Floyd because that's what he relies on the most. Unlike Floyd, he only has one effective dimension to his game and that's "stick and move" all night, just as Cory Spinks or Sharmba Mitchell.

No. I already have points with Burner and Raseed on it and don't want to risk anymore if Paulie actually does decide to get his shit together. I mean Paulie has all the tools (minus the power) to beat Hatton, but I don't think he has the mental game to stick to outboxing him. Paulie can win if he boxes going back and can tie Hatton up before he does it himself. Very few fighters specially in these weight classes know how to effectively clinch. Hatton is one of the few.

Both landed in the 10th round in the same Corner: They almost look identical, except for the whole head-into-the-turnbuckle thing. Now If a lesser skilled fighter like Lazcano can land the same type of hook like Mayweather did, on Ricky's home turf with his own referee (who saved his ass btw), then you know Floyd would have knocked him out again in Manchaster at 140lb. Fortunately for Hatton, he got hit by Lazcano that night, not Floyd. All you Hatton groupies need to stop making excuses. To be fair, Hatton didn't see PBF's hook coming as he was charging forward in an almost desperate way (he was losing badly at that point) while the Hatton who got hit by Lazcano was more motivated and not desperate, he had that fight in control. Also Mayweather's laser guided punches allow him to hit home allot more often than Lazcano does.

Care to put some points on that slick??? No. I already have points with Burner and Raseed on it and don't want to risk anymore if Paulie actually does decide to get his shit together. I mean Paulie has all the tools (minus the power) to beat Hatton, but I don't think he has the mental game to stick to outboxing him.

Lol... Priceless.. The same exact face expression when he was hit. Lol. :lol1: hell yea.........head turned the same and everything!!

Both nice counter hooks. :boxing: