Kessler and Pavlik are quite similar in that they both have an upright, mechanical and methodical attack based on left jab, right hand. The difference is that Kessler is FAR more dynamic and gifted boxer than Pavlik is, he can throw more punches, is quicker and sharper in almost all respects.
how accurate is this statement??
If Pavlik dont fight Calzaghe, this is the fight i would like to see
A good boxer knows when another boxer is better than him. If Pavlik steps into the ring with either, he is thinking with his heart, not his head, as Kessler knocks him out in impressive fashion and Joe cruises to a wide UD.
how accurate is this statement??
pavlik's offense is off his jab and his right hand is his money punch, but pavlik throws a wide variety of punches and mixes them up well.
I think pavlik is more skilled and more intelligent than Kessler in the ring...
NO but he showed that he has POWER bpeople were questioning his power vs Kessler
Everyone knows Kelly has good power, but plenty think that Kessler might have more. He has a sick KO rate and is a massive LHW. Kessler maybe having better power than Pavlik doesn't mean that Kelly doesn't have any.
If you really want to compare the two then the power issue is at best unclear. What can be said for sure is that Kessler is faster, can throw a wider range of punches and has much better movement. All of that is fact.
Still think Kessler can handle Pavlik??
Yes. Smart move though bumping this while you Americans are still high from Pavlik's win.
Gary Lockett was not on Pavlik's level, beating him really doesn't mean much.
Kessler and Pavlik are over rated slightly.
Kessler looks better on paper, but he has never beaten a grade A opponent.
Pavlik looks sloppier on paper, but he has beaten a grade A opponent.
In Kesslers one true test, he had trouble making adjustments to Joe and was afraid to take risks. In Pavlik's tests against Taylor, he adjusted and fought two different fights to get the win.
Never go by how it looks on paper. Pavlik is as sloppy as hell but his opponents for some reason have a very hard time trying to deal with him.
FightingFigs,
I hope you enjoyed posting this thread. Some advised you not to, but I was obviously all for it. Can I ask, are you still sure that Kessler is "brawler" and overrated SOB in comparison to Pavlik, or has the overwhelming opinion of your fellow posters changed your mind?
It takes a brave man to admit when he is wrong.
Kessler was dominant against Mundine.
Mundines defence is top notch though. Not stopping him isn't a big deal.
A++ grade when judging Kessler on that fight.
Its rediculous someone made that argument.
Pavlik has gone 12 rounds with a lot of limited fighters.
Not sure why you slapped me with red K, when we're in basic agreement. Not that it matters, I suppose, either way.
Kessler and Pavlik are quite similar in that they both have an upright, mechanical and methodical attack based on left jab, right hand. The difference is that Kessler is FAR more dynamic and gifted boxer than Pavlik is, he can throw more punches, is quicker and sharper in almost all respects.
So your saying Kessler is a better fighter thank Pavlik because he is more gifted and dynamic??
Im gonna make a thread that asks this question
Please analyse the results of this thread and then tell me the size of the :owned: I have just dished out
KESSLER:
Thats correct.
It's about right, although I think Kessler stands straighter up than Pavlik, probably relies on the jab a little more too.
That's a pretty accurate statement, based on seeing Kessler's recent training vid I'd say he's probably a bit faster than Pavlik too. Kelly might be taller, though.
Kessler is better than Pavvy in every department....not even close
kessler is better than pavlik
Accurate.
Kessler is the far superior fighter. In every dimension.
You are the only person in this thread who has voted Pavlik, and you brand anyone who says Kessler delirious (although it would have made more sense if you said "delusional").
Pot.....kettle.....black
PAVLIK:
Pavlik is the better fighter..
No way does a shot lightweight like Dingaan Thobela last 12 rnds with Pavlik
No way does a glass chinned guy like Mundane last 12 with him
Please analyse the results of this thread and then tell me the size of the :owned: I have just dished out
When put like that, in terms of relatively big size, I'd say erm, profoundly huge, something like that!?!
Fig roll man can't even figure out how to put a poll in this thread. Maybe when he can see a much bigger bar by Kesslers name, and a much bigger number, as voted by those all around the world even the states, he might just have a lightbulb appear above his head. What he's been told for several hours now, is Kesslers is a better fighter than Pavlik, is largely consensus for a reason, it's true. I wouldn't bet a tuppence on it though.
:bottle:
Hey, dickhead, you owe me 15k for that Kessler/Calzaghe fight. I couldn't give a shit about the points, but when someone doesn't pay off, it tells me they're a real piece of shit.
Yours 15k is on his way now,sorry
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