we all know cleaning out the division (which he has practically already done) isnt gonna do it because the majority of the WW's are unknown.
we all know that Oscar De La Hoya wont fight Cotto and if he were to, Floyd fanatics would start crying "hypocrisy" because Cotto would be fighting a past his prime fighter as DLH has been called since fighting Mayweather.
We all know that fighting Mayorga would bring the same kind of criticism because Mayorga is ovbiously past his prime and would pretty much be an easy fight for Cotto..
Moving up to fight Forrest wouldnt do much so.....
How exactly is Cotto supposed to raise his PPV stock without getting a shot at DLH, without being criticized for taking an easy fight against Mayorga?
Keep in mind, the only people asking for this are Floyd and his concubines so how?
good question. Floyd was only able to do it by fighting popular fighters like Dela Hoya and HATTON. So im guessing thats how Cotto would have to do it. Course just like in the Floyds fights, there is no REAL reason for fighting a JW or part time fighter so I guess he would just have to fight Floyd to get his PPV numbers up. Oh wait....:ugh:TO THE THREAD MAKER...YOU GOT:owned:!!!!
It just takes time.
Floyd was much farther along in the game before he started bringing the $$$. The mainstream catches on slowly. Hopkins became a star with a dozen title defenses behind him. Floyd was "p4p #1" for a few years before he hit it big. Lennox was on the downswing. Etc.
Only Puerto Ricans and few hardcore boxing fans watch Cotto..
And how Cotto should sell himself shouldn't ever enter his mind. Winning fights should be the only thing on his mind. If fighters like Mayweather won't fight him cause he can't produce numbers, so be it.
Cotto will go down in history as the guy who fought anyone, Mayweather will go down as excatly what he is.
If Floyd was really smart and confident in his game, he would have got his meal tickets off the names of Hatton/Gatti/and Oscar, then he woulda went back down and proved his dominance and namesake.
But with Floyd's body failing him, I do think he is hesitant about choosing his opposition. Cause a confident fighter wouldn't deny the sport a challenge that's been presented to him. But Floyd shows no interest.
So be it, let the rest of the sport do what its suppose to do and Floyd will be retired within a year or a year and a half anyway. Floyd's the past. He should have jumpded up in weight earlier to avoid this, but Maybe the prime Mosley's and Oscar's were too scary. lol I know prime versions of each were too big and fast for Floyd to beat. He had his shot at Margarito when Tony's name meant somthin, he had his shot at Shane..
lol Cotto is stealin the show though, litterally, by takin the fights Floyd wont take.
Here's your answer 2501. It takes time and he's doing exactly what he needs to do. Facing and beating legitimate, dangerous live opponents who Floyd ducked for easy paydays. I'm certain if Cotto beat's Marg there won't be anywhere left for Mayweather to run to (except maybe Jupiter) and he will be forced to fight him.
this thread was aimed at floyd's concubines who say he needs to raise his stock but would turn around and do everything i listed.
turnabout is fairplay... if mayweather fights for money, why can't cotto? if cotto fights for money, why can't mayweather?
IMHO there's nothing wrong with either guy trying to maximize their earnings.
and no cotto's concubines dont want cotto to raise his stock because they feel cotto already deserves his shot unlike............floyd's concubines.
its obvious to everyone that cotto is floyd's #1 contender and deserves his shot.
so how was that ignorant? are we entering the no spin zone now?
its ignorant because Cotto, his wife, his team, and arum all want to see his stock rise.
On a serious note, he should lose the robotic nice guy swagger. He should start cursing, calling Floyd a little punk ass shoulder rolling pot shotting dick sucking bitch. He should spit on Ellerbe and Uncle Rog's face. He might even want to uppercut an old lady or two. I think this would catch anyone's attention.
Lmao. Green K for you.
and you wonder why floyd fans are considered to be racists against mexicans. i also love how you guys spin opinions for the sake of your argument.
i've never have once blamed Floyd for Cotto's lack of popularity. as a matter of fact, for me, popularity of my favorite fighters isnt something i concentrate on or even concern myself with just like their financial status. im asking those fans that keep bring up the same ol regurgitated excuses to explain, but there never really is clear answer.
If you think a comment about Tecate and JCC is racist then you need some thicker skin.
And if you aren't concerned about populatiry why did you take the time to make a thread about it?
It just takes time.
Floyd was much farther along in the game before he started bringing the $$$. The mainstream catches on slowly. Hopkins became a star with a dozen title defenses behind him. Floyd was "p4p #1" for a few years before he hit it big. Lennox was on the downswing. Etc.
Cotto doesn't just need to clean it out, he needs to win by devastating KOs or engage in epic wars like the Vasquez/Marquez trilogy. Cotto needed to destroy MOsley, but instead he ran in the championship rounds. Cotto needs to absolutely destroy Margarito.
It would be hypocrisy but it's something that would be good for Cotto's career. Everybody knows that. Cotto fanatics should just take one in the ass and say so what if Cotto fights DLH. The potential of the fight is greater than the reputation of Cotto fanatics.
Once again, so what... Cotto fights for money... so does everyone else... but Cotto fans need to take it like a woman and lie down that shit taking about "money" mayweather being a punk for fighting for money. ONce again Cotto fans just take it.
actually, Cotto would become a 3 division champ if he could beat Forrest, which would up his profile p4p. If he wanted to he could fight Winky at 154.
so what about the criticism... all that matters is raising his ppv stock so that the floyd/cotto fight will happen.
that was a pretty ignorant thing to say... so cotto and his team don't want to up his ppv stock??? Cotto concubines don't want to see their fighter make the kind of money he deserves for shedding his blood and sweat in the ring??? get the f*ck out of here.
this thread was aimed at floyd's concubines who say he needs to raise his stock but would turn around and do everything i listed. and no cotto's concubines dont want cotto to raise his stock because they feel cotto already deserves his shot unlike............floyd's concubines. so how was that ignorant? are we entering the no spin zone now?
he should hang out with Big Pun and throw pesos at large groups of Puerto Ricans
Big Pun is dead....oh wait you're thinking outside the box, way outside the box, it just might work. :tapedshut
we all know cleaning out the division (which he has practically already done) isnt gonna do it because the majority of the WW's are unknown.
Cotto doesn't just need to clean it out, he needs to win by devastating KOs or engage in epic wars like the Vasquez/Marquez trilogy. Cotto needed to destroy MOsley, but instead he ran in the championship rounds. Cotto needs to absolutely destroy Margarito.
we all know that Oscar De La Hoya wont fight Cotto and if he were to, Floyd fanatics would start crying "hypocrisy" because Cotto would be fighting a past his prime fighter as DLH has been called since fighting Mayweather.
It would be hypocrisy but it's something that would be good for Cotto's career. Everybody knows that. Cotto fanatics should just take one in the ass and say so what if Cotto fights DLH. The potential of the fight is greater than the reputation of Cotto fanatics.
We all know that fighting Mayorga would bring the same kind of criticism because Mayorga is ovbiously past his prime and would pretty much be an easy fight for Cotto..
Once again, so what... Cotto fights for money... so does everyone else... but Cotto fans need to take it like a woman and lie down that shit taking about "money" mayweather being a punk for fighting for money. ONce again Cotto fans just take it.
Moving up to fight Forrest wouldnt do much so.....
actually, Cotto would become a 3 division champ if he could beat Forrest, which would up his profile p4p. If he wanted to he could fight Winky at 154.
How exactly is Cotto supposed to raise his PPV stock without getting a shot at DLH, without being criticized for taking an easy fight against Mayorga?
so what about the criticism... all that matters is raising his ppv stock so that the floyd/cotto fight will happen.
Keep in mind, the only people asking for this are Floyd and his concubines so how?
that was a pretty ignorant thing to say... so cotto and his team don't want to up his ppv stock??? Cotto concubines don't want to see their fighter make the kind of money he deserves for shedding his blood and sweat in the ring??? get the f*ck out of here.
On a serious note, he should lose the robotic nice guy swagger. He should start cursing, calling Floyd a little punk ass shoulder rolling pot shotting dick sucking bitch. He should spit on Ellerbe and Uncle Rog's face. He might even want to uppercut an old lady or two. I think this would catch anyone's attention.
:rofl::lol1:
is that why trinidad was a popular puerto rican?? .
No Trinidad had charisma you can't fake. Miguel Cotto is the equivelant of a Joe Louis - good maybe even great fighter but boring as fuck.
Ali owns Joe Louis in popularity and achievements. All combined a better personality. Same goes for Cotto in regards to Trinidad.
He has to leave Arum
He must become a CEO
He has to shoot a rapper
He needs to let his hair grow and get cornrows
He needs a tattoo that says "fight me floyd"
He needs to go on tour with Usher
ETC.......
lmao the Floydboys come out of the woodoworks. Funny how you didn't address the thread AT ALL but the MOMENT Floyd was mentioned you went crazy. 25 you aligning yourself with commonmang and deevel? For shame, for shame:nonono:
Clear answer: They're just Floyd groupies, simple as that. They focus on Floyd's finances and PPV's and Cotto's lack thereof just as much as Viva Mexico focuses on bravado/cowardice/courage/ etc, and all that other Macho Crap. They're all extremists and are an easy target for those willing to engage them because they don't argue their points well.
Keep up the good fight.
we would make great fight watching buddies
and you wonder why floyd fans are considered to be racists against mexicans. i also love how you guys spin opinions for the sake of your argument.
i've never have once blamed Floyd for Cotto's lack of popularity. as a matter of fact, for me, popularity of my favorite fighters isnt something i concentrate on or even concern myself with just like their financial status. im asking those fans that keep bring up the same ol regurgitated excuses to explain, but there never really is clear answer.
Clear answer: They're just Floyd groupies, simple as that. They focus on Floyd's finances and PPV's and Cotto's lack thereof just as much as Viva Mexico focuses on bravado/cowardice/courage/ etc, and all that other Macho Crap. They're all extremists and are an easy target for those willing to engage them because they don't argue their points well.
Keep up the good fight.
You're blaming Floyd for Cotto's lack of popularity?
I have this image of you in a room with padded walls, drinking a tecate, while staring at JCC poster.
and you wonder why floyd fans are considered to be racists against mexicans. i also love how you guys spin opinions for the sake of your argument.
i've never have once blamed Floyd for Cotto's lack of popularity. as a matter of fact, for me, popularity of my favorite fighters isnt something i concentrate on or even concern myself with just like their financial status. im asking those fans that keep bring up the same ol regurgitated excuses to explain, but there never really is clear answer.
no sir, you are dumber for thinking that is all it takes and even stupider for not realizing that you basically agreed with me. Floyd is where he is at because De La Hoya fought him. Who is going to fight Cotto?
You're blaming Floyd for Cotto's lack of popularity?
I have this image of you in a room with padded walls, drinking a tecate, while staring at JCC poster.
no sir, you are dumber for thinking that is all it takes and even stupider for not realizing that you basically agreed with me. Floyd is where he is at because De La Hoya fought him. Who is going to fight Cotto?
Actually he is right. Cotto has beaten some decent fighters and no calling from Floyd. Maybe trying something new and see if it work wouldn't hurt.
Larry Merchant even tried baiting him into the Hatton/Max Kellerman-esque Post fight interview where Kellerman said "Do you have anything to say to Floyd in regards to a possible fight" and Hatton going off "These 4 rounds were more exciting then Floyd entire career". And Cotto didn't take the oppritunity. It was right there and he turned it down.
So fukk him. His fans can speak for him on message boards all they want and it aint gonna work if he isn't speaking up when given a chance.
but we all know being deserving doesnt mean he'll get a shot at Floyd. And im not asking for Floyd to give him a shot because as i've stated before, Cotto SHOULD call out Floyd since Floyd is on top looking down. but just calling out Floyd, playing the role of an arrogant, disrespectful asshole doesnt raise your stock, it takes 2 to tango and the other fighters that can help Cotto raise his profile dont want any part of him. This thread wasnt meant for you in the first place and you didn't really even answer it.
Yes but I gave you an even better answer. Tarver got his shot by doing a lil extra work to knock off the P4P king RJJ. RJJ didn't have to fight him, he won the HW title and was thinking about cashing in against a washed up Mike Tyson at that time and retire. Tarver changed all that. And the fact that Tarver became the Unified light-heavy champ wasn't why RJJ fought him it was the verbal shots that attacked Roy's pride what got him the shot.
And again why do you care about the Mayweather mouthpeaces who create online gangs in the name of Floyd? If Floyd says that Cotto needs to get his PPV game up, they will just repeat what he is saying. They don't argue their own points, they just repeat what Floyd says. In reality Floyd doesn't even mean all that, he is just waiting for Cotto to call him out after a big victory on HBO ppv. All that PPV shit won't matter if he does that. After The World Awaits, Floyd said he was retired. Would Hatton gotten his shot at Floyd had he not called him out after beating Castillo? I don't think so.