and iv come to the conclusion that juan manuel marquez is THE best technical boxer in the sport today. every punch the man throws is straight out of the boxing text book. wot u guys think?
if there was ever an "And 1" Boxing mixtape, you can expect to see JMM in there. some of the punches he's pulled off are down right nasty. One handed 3 punch combinations. Leaping double left hooks. Uppercuts from the outside. Max Kellerman said it best...
"Who lands uppercuts from the outside!?"
He is more skilful than Mayweather. This guy has 4 losses and a draw. It means he has been exposed 4 times. Mayweather is 0, the most skilful boxer since Ali or ever better maybe depends on how you view boxing. He is just another punching bag.
people like you place too much emphasis on this holy unbeaten record business. mayweather is 1 of my favourite but if he retired now unbeaten theres no way he will be an all time great. and thats the truth. boxers need that opponent that brings somethin out in them that they never knew they had. mayweather hasnt faced any1 like that yet and until he does he will be remembered as 1 of the most gifted fighters of our generation but not an all time great
I totally agree with you but I thought you're also describing christian mijares.
LOL, yeah I can see that too but thats why I said "one of the most complete" and not "the most complete". Nacho is definitely doing something right with his boys.
Yeah, Rafael is one of the most complete fighters today. He can do it all, he can box off the jab. He can counter, he can pressure, he can go to the body and the head with power and combinations. He has a great inside fighting skills.
Just because he lost doesn't make him less of a complete fighter. Rafael was coming up in weight and lost to a great fighter that was stronger and bigger. Doesn't mean that he isn't a complete fighter.
If PBF fought in the 80's and came up from 140lbs to 147lbs and lost to Sugar Ray Leonard, it doesn't mean that PBF isn't a complete boxer.I totally agree with you but I thought you're also describing christian mijares.
My god, you are an utter joke. Calzaghe infiltrates every single fucking post you make. If it's not bumming him senseless, it's hyping the credentials of prominent fighters on his CV.
Do you have any self-respect at all?
haha :owned:
My god, you are an utter joke. Calzaghe infiltrates every single fucking post you make. If it's not bumming him senseless, it's hyping the credentials of prominent fighters on his CV.
Do you have any self-respect at all?I'd always back that girl in your avy. LOL
huh rafa? Don't get me wrong cause he's one of my favorites. I rooted for him in his 3 fights against izzy.
Yeah, Rafael is one of the most complete fighters today. He can do it all, he can box off the jab. He can counter, he can pressure, he can go to the body and the head with power and combinations. He has a great inside fighting skills.
Just because he lost doesn't make him less of a complete fighter. Rafael was coming up in weight and lost to a great fighter that was stronger and bigger. Doesn't mean that he isn't a complete fighter.
If PBF fought in the 80's and came up from 140lbs to 147lbs and lost to Sugar Ray Leonard, it doesn't mean that PBF isn't a complete boxer.
lol your like a politician and dodging the question but yeh it was some great boxing. :boxing:
politician? Nah!!! I don't know when you started reading threads about the first match and the rematch but i've been reading and posting since the day after the first match and I feel like I like to puke when I see another thread trying to discuss again lol.
I would say Rafael Marquez and PBF are the 2 most complete boxers fighting today. JMM is very good though but just feel that the other 2 are just more complete.
huh rafa? Don't get me wrong cause he's one of my favorites. I rooted for him in his 3 fights against izzy.
I'm asking you honest opinion even tho your a pac fan.... i like both fighters and was more wanting pac to win but i thought jmm won. I would no say jmm was not robbed at all but i'd slightly say jmm won,. But i agree with you.I'm thinking like discussions of those 24 rounds of great boxing has been discussed like in a million of threads already and discussing the pros and cons in another one is totally hopeless.
I would say Rafael Marquez and PBF are the 2 most complete boxers fighting today. JMM is very good though but just feel that the other 2 are just more complete.
well, define by techincal?
if it is execution of punchs will you cant say that Pac is not polished he throws his left and right pretty well and doesnt not swing
You really think pac beat him in there last fight?
Do I need to? the judges made decisions not me and no matter what I or you say won't change that, you agree?