Official Debate: Did ODLH Dive Against Bernard Hopkins?

I think it was it was De La Hoya the businessmen who was in the ring that fight, not De La Hoya the fighter ... Like it had been said Hopkins was walking him down and De La Hoya knew if he stayed in the fight he'd lose value at the box office so to speak. I think he could of gotten up, that fight was kinda the death of the old De La Hoya and the new C.E.O. Of Golden Boy.

it wasn't a dive...it just shows you the difference in punching power from division to division...that shit was a wake up call

No it wasn't. Why the hell would you yell out "BODYSHOT! BODYSHOT!" if it was a setup? Well technically you are asking if it was a dive, so no it wasn't. However I do think he could have possibly gotten up. He was done though. Oscar was competitive, but it still puzzles me when people had him ahead on the scorecards.

That wasn't a dive, Oscar just can't take it to the body.

This is a toss up, he could've gotten up but you never know, i mean watch Dorin(Romanian fellow)-Gatti Toss Up....

The body shot didn't look too powerful but if a person gets hit in the right place even if the punch isn't very powerful can lead to a knockout.

Oscar was on his way to be being knocked out at the time of the stoppage and that body shot was pin point. I don't think that he took a dive. Hopkins was landing at will and was starting to walk Oscar down. If the body shot didn't do it, then he would have been knocked out with a head shot.

I don't think he dove. I think he was looking for a way out and told himself he couldn't get up for that moment, when he really could've. It was all mental